Built In Alcove Cupboard

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Sorry about the wait, i,ve held up with work commitments, one of the joys of being self employed :/

It started out as a joke which back fired on me good and proper, i kept joking to the wife that i,m going to build a tank in the alcove for my discus, which turned out to be a good idea, to her for her Tanganyika's.

Ow well better luck next time, i have to say it will look good when the fish are in it :)

Alcove built in tank

to make this all you will need is a hammer, square, spirit level, tape measure, screwdriver, drill, saw, a jig saw would be handy, but you can get buy without it.

for all those that are diy virgins these next few pics will give you an idea on how to cut wood square
Note the first pic where i,m using a square to mark two edges to guide me, and the second where my finger is pointing in the direction i'm cutting, this is to stop you twisting the saw, and going a stray.

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The next set of pics is the frame that supports the tank.

Measure in between the two walls and cut a piece of 3"*2" softwood to fit, make it tight, as it will make you life a little easier when you are lining things up.

Mark the height you want you tank to be on the wall and bang the timber into place and level up with a spirit level. ( the height of my cupboard was determined by the height my doors, i,ve used two old pine kitchen, which are a standard height of 720mm, also i have 7" toro skirting board, which at a min puts me at height of 900mm/ to be honest with you i dint plan anything, i just made up as i went along)

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Measure the width of you tank, just as and eg say it's 300mm/ 12", just as a reference as funny as it sounds isn't 3"*2" softwood doesn't actually measure 3"*2" its more like 70*45mm, so your front and back rail is taking up 90mm of that measurement, so you would have to cut 3 pieces of at 220mm that's with 10mm for clearance just for a bit of play.

Take some 3" screws, an toe screw the the the three piece's to the back rail, one ether side and center.
(pic below) toe screwing is, putting the screws in at a angle, going through both piece's of wood, a small drill bit can be handy for this, to drill a pilot hole first)

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Measure a piece of 3"*2"for the front rail, again make it tight, and knock it in place.
You will now need your spirit level, to level from front to back and side to side, again just tap it with you hammer until its level at ether ends and then from side to side, if you piece is tight it should be easy.

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Once its all level, screw through the front rail and secure the three rails in place with 3" screws.

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You now have a thick chunky shelf.

Now is the time to secure it to the wall with the 3" screws and raw plugs.
What i do is drill through the wood into the wall with a long series masonry bit which are ten a penny from your local diy store, and tap a raw plug in to the hole in the wood, then put the screw into the plug and tap it home until the tip of the screw is nearly flush with the timber, then just screw it up tight until it pulls under the timbers surface.

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I know it all looks a little rough at the moment but as you progress it will cover it's self with each step.

Pic's below is of an upright these will help support the weight of the tank ( if it's a small tank you can get away without them, i have had tanks of 60 to 100ltr on a frame just screwed to the wall).
Firs measure from the floor to the underside of the frame and cut a piece of 3"*2" softwood to snugly fit (measure each upright individually as they may differ if the flood has a run on it)
Next roughly mark on the wood where the skirting boards are and notching out to fit around.

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The next three pics are of the uprights being leveled.
First level it up from front to back, and put a small pencil mark on the skirting board as a reference, then do the same again but this time from side to side and put a pencil mark on the front rail of the frame.
The screw with a couple of 3" screw's, through the rail into the upright, and a 2" screw into the skirting board, making sure you line up you pencil marks.

Repeat this again for the other side.

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My assistant is my two year old son, who kept pinching my offcuts to build something at the other end of the room, he's a sweetie when he wants to be :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Repeat the same process of notching out and leveling up as you did for the front uprights two uprights but this time put one in the middle.

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Next is the bottom rail, same again measure and cut a piece of 2"*3" ( i used 2"*2" because i had it to hand) to fit between the two uprights, make it a snug fit.
The idea is to level the rail with your spirit level and line the center of the rail with the top of the skirting board so you have something to fix the skirting board to later.
Again i just toe screwed it at ether side,

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Next mark center between the two uprights.
Cut a small noggin to fit under the bottom rail line it up with the center line and screw with a 3" screw.
Then cut a upright to fit between the top and bottom rail (make it snug), and line it up center using you two pencil marks, check it with your spirit level and screw the through the top rail and toe screw to the bottom rail with 3" screw's.

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All i,m doing here is using the spirit level to put a pencil mark on the back uprights to line up a baton to sit the shelf on, which is simply a piece of 2"*1" softwood screwed to the uprights and lined up with the pencil marks.

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Measure in between the two walls again and also from front to back and transfer these measurements to a piece of board (12/18mm mdf/ply up to you, i used 18mm mdf because i had loads spare off a job) and cut out, like i said it doesn't have to be perfect as it will be covered later (the main point is it sits on the 3"*2" frame)
Once done drill and screw or nail to the frame with 40mm screw's or nails.

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YOU will need to put some polystyrene or i used some fibreboard, the type you would use under laminate flooring, to pad the bottom and stop pressure cracks.

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You will need to cut out a hole for your electrics to pass through, so i,ve cut a 55mm hole with a hole saw, a jigsaw or use a drill to drill out a series of holes and join them together would work just as well, as long as your able to pass your plugs and pipe work through there shouldn't be a problem

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Next step is the bottom shelf, i,ve use 18mm mdf but any board would do from 6mm plus.
Simply measure from front to back at both sides and trancfer the mesurments to your board and cut, you will then need to noch around the uprights, screw or nail in place.

On the right hand side i have a socket so i have took the bottom shelf to the wall.

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Thats it for now, il have to write part two later as it wont let me post any more pics.
 
It never ceases to amaze me the lengths of trouble aquarists go to in the pursuit of their hobby. I have built 4 external fish-houses to date each one vastly superior to the last and when I think of the man hours spent on construction and the time spent cleaning feeding & breeding it sometimes make me wonder. Its an addiction.
Anyway just seeing those pics with you on the saw and the kid wanting to join in (hinder) brought it all back.
Good work and an excellent use of an otherwise wasted space.
Regards
BigC
 
It never ceases to amaze me the lengths of trouble aquarists go to in the pursuit of their hobby. I have built 4 external fish-houses to date each one vastly superior to the last and when I think of the man hours spent on construction and the time spent cleaning feeding & breeding it sometimes make me wonder. Its an addiction.
Anyway just seeing those pics with you on the saw and the kid wanting to join in (hinder) brought it all back.
Good work and an excellent use of an otherwise wasted space.
Regards
BigC

To true, personaly i think there is three types of aquarmists, ones how purly keep fish for the sake of keeping, specialists that keep and breed select specise, and then there's the people that like the procceses of setting the tanks up, who enjoy the hassal of sorting all the problems.
Personaly the later two are me :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

We,ve just decorated the tank today and put three fish in, il take a pic when the water clears.

I was going to start writeing the rest of the post up but i,m to go to morecambe to pick the step kids up, there dad's cars brock down again :angry:
 
Wow that's really fantastic ! B)
Can't wait to see a pic of the full and final setup !
 
That's pretty cool... I've seen/done hoods and stands, but this is definitely a great project. I think we should pin this, to make it permanent.

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I'm impressed - I didn't know anyone cut this much wood anymore without a power saw.

Carl

True were to lazy these days, me inclueded but i try ti keep my hand in :lol:

I just wanted t show all the people that have fancyed making something like this, that you don't need be a skiled craftsman or have a shed load of fancy power tools to do it.
I dare say that dad, brother or a freind would lend you the tools if you havnt got them (beg steal and borrow lol)

All of the project was done with basic hand tools most people have the only apseptions was the the cordless screwdriver, which could be replaced with a hand screw driver (sod that thats the point i,m to lazy although i have done it) and a jig saw, to which you could use a fret saw but i think jig saw are so cheap these day you can pick one up for under £10.

I,ve been luck get loads of bit and materails because of the job i,m in this hole project cost me:
£17 for the timber for the front and light unit,
£29.95 for the tank,
£2.99 for the play sand,
£18 for the shelf brackets for the lighting unit,

The 18mm MDF, cream hardboard, lights and trancformer, fiberboard and 3"*2" softwood where all left over from jobs, apart from the doors which i salvaged of a kitchen i pulled out.

if i had to put a price on the project so far as a guide, about £150/200 for every thing from the tank to the stain varnish to finish (depending on where you get your stuff).
 
hi

so when you going to post some more pictures? I'm trying desperatly hard to convince my hubby that the 3ft tank I have in a 4ft alcove could easily be changed for a bigger tank and a better base made...

thanks for the ideas...

kiss kiss :wub:
godzuki
 
Welcome to part two :lol: sorry about the wait been really bizzy with work, got 3 kitchens to complete before Christmas, and i,m having fun with this one because of a builder that's/, well lets just compare him to scotch mist :S

Next step is cladding out the inside of the cupboard, i,ve use 4mm cream hard board, simply because its easy to cut and i have a shed load of it.

Its up to you what you do here, it all depends on what sort of setup you want inside, i,ve divided it up because i want to put some cloths in the other side for the young kids, and then a lock on the other to put valuables and electrics and such.

To make it easier you could put two batons one front and back screwed to the front and back uprights and cut one long shelf instead.

First measure the internal height and from front to back, both top and bottom, and transfer the measurements to your hard board.

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To cut all you need is a sharp utility knife (Stanley) score two to three times and then snap them sand to clean the rough edge off.

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Then pin in place, follow the same step for all four sides unless you have a socket you need access to.

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Next step the shelf, first i,ve put a pencil mark where i want the shelf to be.
Then i use the spirit level to transfer the mark to the other side.

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Then using the spirit level again draw a level line from the pencil mark to the back to use as a guide for the shelf batton.

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Cut two batons and sand the edges round, and drill two countersunk holes in ether end, line them up with the pencil marks and screw into the front and back uprights.

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Then measure and cut a shelf to slot in, then repeat on the other side.

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I,m afraid that's it for now, i will write some more up tomorrow if i get chance.

I going to have to take some pics on the job i,m doing now to explain the the proses of scribing so you can get the frame to follow the contour of the wall.
Its not hard all you will need is a compass and your saw and a clamp of sorts would be helpful.
 
Bet the missus was ecstatic about you taking a stanley knife to a piece of hardboard on top of the laminate!

I'm enjoying this thread so far, very informative!

I,m safe mate lol the floors going after christmas its a mess, who ever fit it did a rudish job and there big chunks, gaps and what not everywhere, and i didnt go all the way through any way. :lol: :lol:
 
I know i know its been a while, its been mad up to Christmas, i,m still at it and wont finish until Christmas eve night :(

Welcome to part three the face frame and lights. :)

I,ve used some old 450mm kitchen doors, which a salvaged from a kitchen i pulled out, you should be able to but these from places like focus, do it all etc etc.

I worked out that 5" * 1" softwood would give me an opening that the doors would cover, the thing to try to do is to get a door or make the frame so there is a 20mm overlap all the way round.
Just remember thay the door can only overlap the upright 20mm because of the hindge, unless you use flush fitting hindge, in which case it will fit where ever you want.

Below is a sketch of frame showing how its constructed.

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Scribing the two uprights is about the hardest thing in this project, you have to do if first cut a upright which will be about 20 to 30mm shorter than the height of the unit with the tank, this is so the top rail covers the top of the tank framing it.
The next step is to push it up to the skirting and level it up and clamp, so it stands up vertical (plum), you could put a panel pin in to hold it in place if you have no clamp, just leave the tip sticking out so you can get the pin out later.
Next step is to measure the largest part of the gap between the wall and the upright.
Set you compass to that measurement, and run down the wall marking the upright with the pencil as you go.
Now you will have to cut to the line, you don't have to go around the skirting perfectly as the a piece of skirting will cover it later.
Now repeat again for the other side.

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What you need to do now is measure and cut the top, center and bottom rail, as in the sketch above, as with the top rail the center rail overlaps the tank framing it in, once you have all these you can set it out on the floor with your doors to find out the size of you center upright (that the doors will close onto).

You could pin each piece to the stand as you go to make it easy, but i wanted to be able to take the frame out at a later date
If you where to do this you would have to glue two blocks of wood at the top of the uprightd to fasten the top rail to.

Once laid out on the floor, pulled the joints together and screwed metal plates to fix, ( the plates used are the type you might find on the back of you kitchen doors, you should get them from diy store's)

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Once I'd screwed the frame together, i cut two pieces of 2" * 1" softwood the height of the door opening to fasten the hinges to, which where screwed through the front with some 1 1/4" 6 gauge screws.

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The doors where already fitted with plum hinges, the type you get on you kitchen cabinets, i held them to the frame (remembering the upper level of the skirting board)and marked with a pencil, drilled a couple of pilot holes and screwed.

Finished frame, with doors.

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Next set of pic is the prep of the frame before i screw it in, what i did was to chamfer the back edge's and varnish the back as it would be hard to do once in place.

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The wife decided she wanted pendent light, but she also wanted shelves, (and her cake and eat it lol).
So what i came up with is adjustable shelf brackets.
All i did was trace a line across the top of the tank as a guide.
then screw the brackets to the wall about 10mm above to give clearance on the tank.

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The frame can now be sloted into place, and screwed, note i,ve screwed it where it cant be seen, behind the door, abd behind the skirting board.

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To fit the skirting board measure the gap between the top edges of the skirting on ether wall and cut a peice to fit.
Take the off cut and mark rounf it ether side with the pencil, so that when you cut it, it should slot in and fit the contour, to cit it use ether a jug saw od a fret saw (carefull as you go you still want 8 fingers and 2 thumbs)
Then slot in and screw with 1 1/4" 6 gauge screws.

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The next step is to fill and sand ready to varnish, remember when sanding go eith the grain.

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Next set are the lighting box which was pretty easy to make, but i have to confess i cheated, i used my miter saw. :X

First i cut two piece's for the front and back and two for the sides, i made it 1000mm by 400mm, i,ve used the same timber as i used for the front frame.
I,ve mitered these, but you could just glue and butt joint them together and pin to hold.
I,ve glued the miters together with a special miter bond, which is a two part glue they use for, picture frames and cornice on top of your kitchen cupboards, it not to exspencive about £4+

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Next step is to cut the bottom where the light will sit, i used 18mm mdf for this.
All i,ve done is place the frame on the mdf, trace and cut, for a neat fit.

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I placed the back in and pined so its flush with the edge of the frame.

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I used a hole saw to cut three 55mm holes to sit the recessed cabinet lights into.
which are wired to a 12v transformer, and a wire the comes in through a small hole i drilled in the side.

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Once wired up i cut a piece of 6mm mdf to cover the top, this was screwed on with 1 1/4" 6gauge screws so i could take it off at a later date in needed.

I filled in any holes with wood filler, and chamfered all the edges which i later rounded with sand paper, to make it look like one slab of wood.

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All finished and ready for the finish.

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continue to next post for finishing.

Once all holes have been filled and it has all had a good sand, its ready to varnish.

Time for first coat, a tip when varnishing for those of you that don't know, keep the brush strocks in the direction of the grain.

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Once the first coat has dryed, sand with a 220 grit foam block ( foam blocks are superb at getting into all the little crevices) then wipe down with a damp rag to remove all the dust, ready for second coat.

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Second coat try to smothen the varnich out and stick with the grain (it will give you a better finish)

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Because the door had been stained and sprayed already, i sanded them down with the 220 grit block and give them one coat to freshen them up a little.

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I cut some 2mm perspects sheet, to make a cover glass, i made it in two peice's so it was easyer to slide to feed etc.
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On the top rail i screwed a couple of tube clips to fit a 25 wat moonlight blue tube for night.

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The finished tank ready for fish

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We had a little trip to the country to pick up some local sand stone, to decorate the tank.
The sand is play sand from do it all which was £2.99 a bag and the bogwoon was some i'd bought a while back.
Il post a better pic later when its setteled, where are planing on putting some onion plants or vallis around the bogwood and possibly some java moss.
I moght also add some anbuias and java fernd later.

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Awesome thread. This thread deserves to be pinned! :nod: :clap: Can't wait for pics of the stocked tank, when the water clears up. Would be nice to see pics of the tank with normal lights and the moonlight ones. Not sure if you mentioned it before, but how big is the tank? Good job once again, it looks really professional!
 

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