So Many Things Going Wrong!

[the biffster]

hi just out of curiosity
do you have a light on your
hospital tank were your neon's are
i used to find if neon's don't have a light on
t6hey lose there colour and go proper pale

 

[fluffycabbage]

hi just out of curiosity
do you have a light on your
hospital tank were your neon's are
i used to find if neon's don't have a light on
t6hey lose there colour and go proper pale

morning (happy birthday!) - yep i do but not as much as the main tank. although they are in direct line of a window, so its not exactly dark. will bear it in mind though, thanks

 

[the biffster]

hi just out of curiosity
do you have a light on your
hospital tank were your neon's are
i used to find if neon's don't have a light on
t6hey lose there colour and go proper pale

morning (happy birthday!) - yep i do but not as much as the main tank. although they are in direct line of a window, so its not exactly dark. will bear it in mind though, thanks

your black molly have you tried giving
a doze of aquarium salt just a thought
a touch of old school

 

[fluffycabbage]

the tank is full of salt shes been in a salted tank for nearly 2 months now.

 

[WILDER]

I think there pale because of the whitespot med, bacterial med, salt.

White edging to scales can be columnaris.
Peeling skin can be columnaris.

Water change and just add the whitespot med back to the tank.
Only add the whitespot med back to water removed.

Don't add anymore salt as neons don't tolerate it towell.


Both desease are series. But the whitespot needs getting rid of first.
There esha 2000 which is a bacterial med, you can use that med with esha exit for whitespot.
You can mix esha meds.

 

[fluffycabbage]

I think there pale because of the whitespot med, bacterial med, salt.

White edging to scales can be columnaris.
Peeling skin can be columnaris.

Water change and just add the whitespot med back to the tank.
Only add the whitespot med back to water removed.

Don't add anymore salt as neons don't tolerate it towell.


Both desease are series. But the whitespot needs getting rid of first.
There esha 2000 which is a bacterial med, you can use that med with esha exit for whitespot.
You can mix esha meds.

right ok - so basically ive gotta treat the whitespot with the eSHa med (i have both already), and temp too? or not up the temp coz of the columnaris?

ive already cleaned out and refilled the 80l with fresh water, no meds or salt in it. so can i put them straight in that or is it best to do say a 50% water change first, then maybe add them to the other fresh tank tomorrow?

its only the molly who is showing white spots.

 

[WILDER]

Run some black carbon for 12 hours before adding the meds.

Anti Whitespot Treatment


eSHa EXIT is an effective treatment against all 'Spot' (Ich) diseases. EXIT also cures Velvet.


EXIT can be used in combination with 'eSHa 2000 - Fungus, Finrot and Bacteria Treatment'. This combination provides you with a broadly effective tool to treat most diseases your fish will encounter.

Acts fast against Whitespot and other Spot Parasites
Safe for use with sensitive tropical fish
Treats 1000 litres. (220 gal.)


Standard Dosage per 100 litres (22 gals) :

Day 1 : 20 drops
Day 2 : 10 drops
Day 3 : 10 drops
20ml completes a three day course for an 1000 litre (220 gallon) aquarium

 

[fluffycabbage]

thanks - so really it would be better to put them in the clean fresh tank now where there are no meds. put in both eSHa meds. leave temp at 24c ish to keep columnaris under control.?

 

[WILDER]

Is the clean fresh tank cycled?

Match ph and temp.

Esha 2000, esha exit, will cover what your fish have.
The esha 2000 might not save the fish with severe columnaris though. As it sounds like a bad strain of columnaris.

 

[fluffycabbage]

Is the clean fresh tank cycled?

Match ph and temp.

Esha 2000, esha exit, will cover what your fish have.
The esha 2000 might not save the fish with severe columnaris though. As it sounds like a bad strain of columnaris.

i will use mature media from my other (disease free) freshwater tank in the clean tank. it has no substrate (yet) but i can deal with that in a few days or so. im assuming that because substrate holds little if any beneficial bacteria that this would be ok, just adding mature media? thhen its immediately cycled isnt it?
pH and temp already matched

 

[Athena]

Hi - just my thoughts on this...been looking at the pics and I don't think that it looks like whitespot, Ich disease. The spots are too irregular sized, blurred, fuzzy edged, flat... Ich is much more uniform, just like salt grains, raised like pimples, white...no, I think Miss Molly has something else wrong with her.

Could be a fungal disease but I'm not entirely sure. I'm just a bit worried you'll be treating her for Ich when it's not that.

Athena

Actually, just reading those last few posts I agree that columnaris is likely the cause of those white spots. So just treat for that, not Ich.

Athena

 

[fluffycabbage]

thanks athena - yeah i think its been pretty much established that she has columnaris. but she keeps getting whitespot spots on her too (its defo ich spots, my platies had them a few months ago, so i know what it looks like). it comes and goes though, which is a bit weird. the other 'spots' are bleached out discolouration of her scales

sooo....treat for columnaris or whitespot? shes already had 6 weeks of treatment for columnaris, but is still holding on!

 

[WILDER]

If the spots are not the size of a grain of salt it's not whitespot.
Make sure the tiny spots are not all joined up to form a line, or patch.

Fish can also get columnaris spots.
They will look a greyish white, with red, or pinkness to them.

 

[fluffycabbage]

If the spots are not the size of a grain of salt it's not whitespot.
Make sure the tiny spots are not all joined up to form a line, or patch.

Fish can also get columnaris spots.
They will look a greyish white, with red, or pinkness to them.

they defo looked like whitespot spots - exactly like a grain of sugar. just white. had a look just now and theyve gone again theyre werent in patches, just randomly over her body.

 

[WILDER]

Sounds like whitespot to me then.
Were the fish flicking and rubbing. Sometimes fish can flick with columnaris.