So Many Things Going Wrong!

[fluffycabbage]

yeah possibly. im going to transfer the tetras into the clean tank this evening. checked and the eSHa whitespot treatment is out of date, but as the tetras dont show any signs of having ich, i dont feel the need to put it in that tank. They'll stay there while i monitor them in just water with no meds. All being well, they'll go into the main tank in a couple of weeks. see how they go anyway.
The molly, i will do a water change tomorrow or saturday, and buy some fresh eSHa whitespot, and add that and the other eSHa treatment to the tank. I want to leave her in the salt really, while she has that 'open' scale or two.

 

[WILDER]

Ok.
It never rains but pours.
It's get you down dosn't it the longer it carries on.

Keep us all updated if you don't mind.

Wishing you luck.

 

[fluffycabbage]

Ok.
It never rains but pours.
It's get you down dosn't it the longer it carries on.

Keep us all updated if you don't mind.

Wishing you luck.

to be honest im not bothered as long as i can her better. well hopefully. my partner isnt too happy about the cost of all these meds as well as 3 tanks running.

You wouldnt believe what happened after i'd put the tetras in their new tank (which theyre happy about!) - i was watching the fish in my other tank, and noticed the silver molly had something on her side. looks like shes had a knock, and now its looking dodgy, maybe fungus? dont know. Im putting it down to the male, hes trouble. So now both female mollies are in the hospital tank

1am - couple of the tetras are acting weird,one is breathing very quick, gasping really. another just acting weird. theyre both doing weird flicky things with their fins too. took a video but cant get it to upload grrr

 

[Athena]

Oh my goodness, not more problems, Fluffy... I wonder what is causing so many different things eh?

Ok, so you put the tetras into a different tank...was that tank fully cycled and how long has it been cycled for? Did you acclimatise the tetras to the new tank water or did you simply transfer them straight in? Was the water tested prior to adding them to the tank?

Sorry, just trying to figure out what is stressing them at the moment. How are they today? The same?

So regarding the mollies, you have a very amorous male who bullies the females, right? Do you think he is the cause of both females getting sick, from the stress of being chased etc lowering their immune system? He's obviously had his way with that first one (or was another male responsible?) LOL

Check that there are no objects in the tank with sharp edges that could have caused your females to damage scales when being chased. When they are being chased by a male they swim so fast, turning this way and that, that they can often bash into things in the tank, causing fin or scale damage.

Shall await an update on how things are today.

Athena

 

[fluffycabbage]

Oh my goodness, not more problems, Fluffy... I wonder what is causing so many different things eh?

Ok, so you put the tetras into a different tank...was that tank fully cycled and how long has it been cycled for? Did you acclimatise the tetras to the new tank water or did you simply transfer them straight in? Was the water tested prior to adding them to the tank?

Sorry, just trying to figure out what is stressing them at the moment. How are they today? The same?

So regarding the mollies, you have a very amorous male who bullies the females, right? Do you think he is the cause of both females getting sick, from the stress of being chased etc lowering their immune system? He's obviously had his way with that first one (or was another male responsible?) LOL

Check that there are no objects in the tank with sharp edges that could have caused your females to damage scales when being chased. When they are being chased by a male they swim so fast, turning this way and that, that they can often bash into things in the tank, causing fin or scale damage.

Shall await an update on how things are today.

Athena

Morning yep i tested the water etc acclimatised etc, and theyre all totally back to normal!! used media from the disease free tank which is very much mature im not concerned about them any more really, will keep an eye though.

yep mrs molly gets bullied by the male, which is why i bought the silver female, but hes not interested in her when the black ones about yep hes the father of several lots of fry
the only thing that may cause any harm would be the bogwood, but it is pretty soft tbh. could be a cause though. all natural plants so nothing scratching their sides etc. i have seen mr molly nip at their sides before, so am wondering if its down to him
the silver molly is not happy in the hospital tank but its for the best eh

 

[the biffster]

Oh my goodness, not more problems, Fluffy... I wonder what is causing so many different things eh?

Ok, so you put the tetras into a different tank...was that tank fully cycled and how long has it been cycled for? Did you acclimatise the tetras to the new tank water or did you simply transfer them straight in? Was the water tested prior to adding them to the tank?

Sorry, just trying to figure out what is stressing them at the moment. How are they today? The same?

So regarding the mollies, you have a very amorous male who bullies the females, right? Do you think he is the cause of both females getting sick, from the stress of being chased etc lowering their immune system? He's obviously had his way with that first one (or was another male responsible?) LOL

Check that there are no objects in the tank with sharp edges that could have caused your females to damage scales when being chased. When they are being chased by a male they swim so fast, turning this way and that, that they can often bash into things in the tank, causing fin or scale damage.

Shall await an update on how things are today.

Athena

Morning yep i tested the water etc acclimatised etc, and theyre all totally back to normal!! used media from the disease free tank which is very much mature im not concerned about them any more really, will keep an eye though.

yep mrs molly gets bullied by the male, which is why i bought the silver female, but hes not interested in her when the black ones about yep hes the father of several lots of fry
the only thing that may cause any harm would be the bogwood, but it is pretty soft tbh. could be a cause though. all natural plants so nothing scratching their sides etc. i have seen mr molly nip at their sides before, so am wondering if its down to him
the silver molly is not happy in the hospital tank but its for the best eh

every thing looking on the brighter side now
well done

 

[Athena]

Yes, hopefully she won't have to be in there too long.

Sounds like that male is a right handful LOL - have had a few fish like that myself in the past, in fact I still see it a lot with my male pink convicts...they can harrass the life out of their partner (I once had to rescue a female and keep her in a fry box for a day or so because she looked so worn out and he just wouldn't give her a minutes rest (he was on an all-out mission!!) and she totally was not in the mood for any hankypanky at the time haha). I'm pretty sure she would have died had I not given her the chance to catch her breath and eat something.

I suppose when your female mollies are well enough to go back into the main tank you will have to keep a close watch on that male.

Anyway, glad to hear that the tetras calmed down eventually as that's one less worry.

Take care - Athena

 

[fluffycabbage]

Yes, hopefully she won't have to be in there too long.

Sounds like that male is a right handful LOL - have had a few fish like that myself in the past, in fact I still see it a lot with my male pink convicts...they can harrass the life out of their partner (I once had to rescue a female and keep her in a fry box for a day or so because she looked so worn out and he just wouldn't give her a minutes rest (he was on an all-out mission!!) and she totally was not in the mood for any hankypanky at the time haha). I'm pretty sure she would have died had I not given her the chance to catch her breath and eat something.

I suppose when your female mollies are well enough to go back into the main tank you will have to keep a close watch on that male.

Anyway, glad to hear that the tetras calmed down eventually as that's one less worry.

Take care - Athena

yep defo one less worry! im going to eventually put them into the main tank and have just that one running. i think im gonna have to give mr molly to the lfs - its too much for me and the fish to go through this constantly...

 

[fluffycabbage]

Update:
neon tetras are fine.

Black molly spot free and strange blue scales free Still has a scale or two which is white n peeling.
Silver molly with suspected fungus on side still in same condition despite 3 days of eSHa 2000 treatment.

So what do i do with the mollies now? The black molly has had 3 different courses of treatment, 7th week now i think. Silver molly 3 days in hospital tank.

Problem - black molly is bullying silver molly

 

[WILDER]

The lfs meds are not strong enough to kill the bacteria.

A member said it says in the esha 2000 instructions that you can double dose in severe cases.
Can you check that out for me if you don't mind.

Glad some fish are on the mend.

 

[fluffycabbage]

The lfs meds are not strong enough to kill the bacteria.

A member said it says in the esha 2000 instructions that you can double dose in severe cases.
Can you check that out for me if you don't mind.

Glad some fish are on the mend.

Yep - it says the extra heavy dosage is double the standard dose, for very ill fish, for prevention of egg mould, and for fast results. In severe cases the secondary doose (days 2/3) may be continued for a nuber of days.

So i guess I'll be doing that then! Think i'll do a 100% water change before adding more, as there are so mmany chemicals in there now!

Thanks for the heads up about that Wilder, i'd forgotten you could double dose! will start that tomorrow.

The lfs meds are not strong enough to kill the bacteria.

A member said it says in the esha 2000 instructions that you can double dose in severe cases.
Can you check that out for me if you don't mind.

Glad some fish are on the mend.

Yep - it says the extra heavy dosage is double the standard dose, for very ill fish, for prevention of egg mould, and for fast results. In severe cases the secondary dose (days 2/3) may be continued for a number of days.

So i guess I'll be doing that then! Think i'll do a 100% water change before adding more, as there are so mmany chemicals in there now!

Thanks for the heads up about that Wilder, i'd forgotten you could double dose! will start that tomorrow.

 

[WILDER]

Good Luck.

 

[fluffycabbage]

Just an update - tetras still fine, now have a betta splendens in their tank, which ive replanted. Happy bunnies.

Mollies - black female is lookiing much better, only a small 'white scale' on her side now, its definitely getting smaller Silver molly has slightly less fungus on her side now. Have given her a hiding place in the hospital tank, as the black one is still bullying her

Theyre on their second dose of double eSHa 2000. Will keep going til both have got rid of what they have, then change water to plain salted water. Keep them like that for a few days, see if anything comes back. If theyre ok, they'll go back in the main tank. Finally....

 

[WILDER]

Thanks for the update.

 

[fluffycabbage]

Another update.
Mrs molly has finally got rid of the white scales on her side
Silver molly still has whatever it is on her side, fungus or whatever. She also has some clear cysts on her left eyelid, which she keeps rubbing on the glass. still eating, drinking, pooping, no different.

so today i did a 100% water change, gave them salted water again but 1/2 the amount. no meds.

i'll give it 48hrs see how they both are.