Saving Money On Test Kits

[t1tanrush]

ZOMG some food decayed and caused some ammonia, I just failed my fish!!!!!! Damn looks like 98% of the forum fails their fish...

If ammonia and nitrite are at zero then there is no need for a water change tbh........

 

[fry_lover]

ZOMG some food decayed and caused some ammonia, I just failed my fish!!!!!! Damn looks like 98% of the forum fails their fish...

If ammonia and nitrite are at zero then there is no need for a water change tbh........

yes, you over fed your fish, this forum can help you

 

[cheesy feet]

Cheesy feet speaks so much troof its unbearable and the people arguing with me are now afraid to continue!

this isn't a game, it feels like a couple of 13 year olds are now running riot on this thread, the debate is test kits, its best to test your water, thats my view and many others

Got the 13 part right But you must be the one running riot, who's 32

If cheesyfeet speaks so much troof, does overfeeding not cause a build up of ammonia etc. The answer is yes.

Fact is, prevention is better than cure, and testing helps prevention, and nobody is afraid of you. Get a grip of yourself.

Also, if you cant be bothered to test your water, i doubt you bother to check for dead fish every day, or even change any water. That stands to reason for me.

I never said it didn't.I merely missed the fact it can at that point in time.But as my point before if T1tanrush did overfeed wouldn't she/he have a load of dead or stunted fish.fry lover, relax.Why are you telling T1tan to get a grip of herself

If cheesyfeet speaks so much troof, does overfeeding not cause a build up of ammonia etc. The answer is yes.

Fact is, prevention is better than cure, and testing helps prevention, and nobody is afraid of you. Get a grip of yourself.

See here is what you do:
1. Test your kit.
2. change your water.
3. end up with a clean tank.

I do:
1. change the water.
2. end up with clean tank.

Oh snap same result in the end ! In both cases we end with a fresh tank, regardless of if we wasted money making a something turn purple.

 

[t1tanrush]

ZOMG some food decayed and caused some ammonia, I just failed my fish!!!!!! Damn looks like 98% of the forum fails their fish...

If ammonia and nitrite are at zero then there is no need for a water change tbh........

yes, you over fed your fish, this forum can help you

Lol rofl ROFL LMFAO ROFL. That is the FUNNIEST thing I have read. Not to mention the STUPIDEST thing I have read.

Each fish needs a specific ammount of food based on its weight, past diet, age etc. Not to mention some days the fish just won't eat... This forum can't help if I overfeed my fish on accident. I feed what they can eat in a few minutes however sometimes they don't eat it all. You can't help me with that sorry.

 

[fry_lover]

cheesy feet i think you need to read better, who told titanrush to get a grip? was it me?

as for Titanrush this statement she/he made sums up her/his lack of knowledge in keeping fish

"If ammonia and nitrite are at zero then there is no need for a water change tbh........"

What?

i suggest a good few hours on Google and reading some of the "sticky threads" on this Forum, it will help, honest

 

[cheesy feet]

I'd like to say weekly and biweekly water changes are basically done to prevent ammonia, nitrite or nitrate from building up.Thats why they should be done.You should not wait until you have high levels of nitrate and etc (can't bother to keep typing it out) to change the water though.

 

[t1tanrush]

cheesy feet i think you need to read better, who told titanrush to get a grip? was it me?

as for Titanrush this statement she/he made sums up her/his lack of knowledge in keeping fish

"If ammonia and nitrite are at zero then there is no need for a water change tbh........"

What?

i suggest a good few hours on Google and reading some of the "sticky threads" on this Forum, it will help, honest

I have a life, why would I want to spend a few hours on google searching for some BS I won't use?
Not to mention all the " sticky " threads promote YOUR way of keeping fish- which I won't accept not now not ever.
Stop wasting my time you won't convert me to your money wasteing ways!

 

[backtotropical]

It was me who said 'get a grip of yourself'. It was aimed at T1tanrush implying that we are afraid to post. No offence intended, and i hope none taken, but that was absolutely ridiculous. If you dont have anything worthwhile to contribute, dont bother at all. Thats what i say.

T1tan, if your tank wasn't full of ammonia and nitrite, your fish would eat every day, like mine.

 

[t1tanrush]

LOL so unless your fish eat every day they have a bad environment? Lol thats nonsense, sometimes after the light has been off and I go to feed them they are too busy sleeping to go for the food, or sometimes the large man feeding them can spook them into hiding. It has nothing to do with my water chem...

 

[cheesy feet]

cheesy feet i think you need to read better, who told titanrush to get a grip? was it me?

Ok, then thats for backtotropical lol.

as for Titanrush this statement she/he made sums up her/his lack of knowledge in keeping fish

"If ammonia and nitrite are at zero then there is no need for a water change tbh........"

What?

i suggest a good few hours on Google and reading some of the "sticky threads" on this Forum, it will help, honest

In a way that is true, but if ammonia suddenly rises and you don't know it has you might end up with dead fish.And if you did it that way you would have to test like everyday to see if the ammonia etc has rised, and then change.Hence the water change schedules.

 

[starrynightxxi]

Every last one of you has lost complete credibility, right or wrong. Please, find somewhere else to fight and quit dragging threads off topic.

 

[Tolak]

Just to give a little info to the dechlorinator/no dechlorinator debate going on here; http/www.fishforums.net/index.php?showto...oguera&st=0

As far as water testing, once you get a little more knowledgable about fish behavior, you can tell if something is a little off, this is when I will do water tests. I have many tanks that have never been tested, and others that haven't been tested for many months.

As far as for a beginner, I would advise water testing and dechlorinator. Once you get a handle on fish behavior and such, you can ease off on the weekly water tests that would be wise for a beginner to do. As far as dechlorinator, and the explaination in that link, I do at least 50% water changes on my tanks, and the amount of ammonia produced could lead to problems, especially for fry, which are more fragile. No doubt my bio filtration would take care of it in time, but in that time damage could occur. I acually worry more about heavy metals with adults than chlorine/chloramine/ammonia, so use a water conditioner that had EDTA.

Mr. Rush; (I really like that one!) while I do agree with many of your ideas and methods for more advanced aquarists, and I do practice several that you mentioned, I would not suggest them for beginners. It is best to start slow with anything, this includes aquatics. I would hate to see a newbie crash & burn without a viable backup plan or the know how to pull it off.

When you have your first lesson in driver's ed, you don't get pointed down the expressway on ramp during rush hour, and when you are trying to teach a kid to ride a bike you don't yank off the training wheels and shove them down a half pipe. Many of the things you advise are fine for advanced aquarists, who have experience, spare tanks, and such to recover if there is a problem.

 

[t1tanrush]

I didn't drag it off topic, I suggested another way to save money and got attacked. I am in the right here k!
BTW I don't care about how credible I am.

 

[K.J.]

How many threads have been closed this past week?

Too many.

Learn a lesson already. ALL of you.

 

[t1tanrush]

Just to give a little info to the dechlorinator/no dechlorinator debate going on here; http/www.fishforums.net/index.php?showto...oguera&st=0

As far as water testing, once you get a little more knowledgable about fish behavior, you can tell if something is a little off, this is when I will do water tests. I have many tanks that have never been tested, and others that haven't been tested for many months.

As far as for a beginner, I would advise water testing and dechlorinator. Once you get a handle on fish behavior and such, you can ease off on the weekly water tests that would be wise for a beginner to do. As far as dechlorinator, and the explaination in that link, I do at least 50% water changes on my tanks, and the amount of ammonia produced could lead to problems, especially for fry, which are more fragile. No doubt my bio filtration would take care of it in time, but in that time damage could occur. I acually worry more about heavy metals with adults than chlorine/chloramine/ammonia, so use a water conditioner that had EDTA.

Mr. Rush; (I really like that one!) while I do agree with many of your ideas and methods for more advanced aquarists, and I do practice several that you mentioned, I would not suggest them for beginners. It is best to start slow with anything, this includes aquatics. I would hate to see a newbie crash & burn without a viable backup plan or the know how to pull it off.

When you have your first lesson in driver's ed, you don't get pointed down the expressway on ramp during rush hour, and when you are trying to teach a kid to ride a bike you don't yank off the training wheels and shove them down a half pipe. Many of the things you advise are fine for advanced aquarists, who have experience, spare tanks, and such to recover if there is a problem.

This is a completely respectable and well made post, and I agree 100%.
See what happens you you speak smart guys?!