Saving Money On Test Kits

[t1tanrush]

Then why do you persist in posting!

zomg excellant point, he is too addicted to trying to prove me wrong.

I'm very new to all of this... but one thing seems constant so far -- no one agrees on the best way to take care of fish! haha.

At least for a beginner, the test kits make me feel like I am taking proper care of my fish. Once my tanks cycle and fish are happy -- I can see myself not testing very often.

Exactly, ammonia, nitrite and nitrate is nothing a good old water change can't fix

More geniusness!!! Hooray we have someone who thinks outside the box.

Just to add- testing your water doesn't fix anything, just change the water and you don't even have to worry about what the nitrates and crap where you got new water after the water change lOL.

 

[cheesy feet]

I have purchased filters for both my large tanks, my profile is from months ago, like 8 or something. Now I have a 40g filter on my 20g because it was overstocked, and a 10-20 on my 10 gallon african clawed frog (recently disconnected as it malfuncioned durring a power outage, and it bugged my frog so I'm not bothering to fix it...) Of course my betta does not get one, the tank is too small and it doesn't warrant a fitler (its a large jar).
fry loverr, I can't see anything wrong with that^...Can you?

 

[fry_lover]

I'm very new to all of this... but one thing seems constant so far -- no one agrees on the best way to take care of fish! haha.

At least for a beginner, the test kits make me feel like I am taking proper care of my fish. Once my tanks cycle and fish are happy -- I can see myself not testing very often.

Exactly, ammonia, nitrite and nitrate is nothing a good old water change can't fix

or proper attention to the bio load of your tank and maybe testing your water more frequently?

if you have ammonia or nitrite in your water and there is fish in that tank, you have failed your fish and perhaps this forum can help you

 

[t1tanrush]

I'm very new to all of this... but one thing seems constant so far -- no one agrees on the best way to take care of fish! haha.

At least for a beginner, the test kits make me feel like I am taking proper care of my fish. Once my tanks cycle and fish are happy -- I can see myself not testing very often.

Exactly, ammonia, nitrite and nitrate is nothing a good old water change can't fix

or proper attention to the bio load of your tank and maybe testing your water more frequently?

if you have ammonia or nitrite in your water and there is fish in that tank, you have failed your fish and perhaps this forum can help you

Lord knows that fish in their natural habitat have perfect water with 0 nitrite/ammonia !!!!

The forum can help us conform to your ways of keeping fish, which we shall not do!

 

[cheesy feet]

Its like saying "I'll just take my dog to the vet if it gets run over" instead of buying a leash.

I dont call that a technique. I've had enough of this nonsense. I'm off to bed.

It blatantly isn't...

 

[fry_lover]

I'm very new to all of this... but one thing seems constant so far -- no one agrees on the best way to take care of fish! haha.

At least for a beginner, the test kits make me feel like I am taking proper care of my fish. Once my tanks cycle and fish are happy -- I can see myself not testing very often.

Exactly, ammonia, nitrite and nitrate is nothing a good old water change can't fix

or proper attention to the bio load of your tank and maybe testing your water more frequently?

if you have ammonia or nitrite in your water and there is fish in that tank, you have failed your fish and perhaps this forum can help you

Lord knows that fish in their natural habitat have perfect water with 0 nitrite/ammonia !!!!

The forum can help us conform to your ways of keeping fish, which we shall not do!

Look Mr Rush, i dont have a problem with you, this is a good thread,,, but one thing for you to realise is that fish in their natural habit hardly ever encounter ammonia and nitrite, or even nitrate sometimes. Not ALL, but most wild kept fish do not experience these things until they enter our aquariums (or yours) by the sounds of it LOL, thats a lght hearted dig by the way, no offence

 

[t1tanrush]

Who is to say nitrites and ammonia are in my tanks? You haven't tested them and neither have I.
Also, they do commonly come in conctacts with these things, and the minor ammounts that accumulate between appropriate water changes won't significantly harm the fish.

 

[cheesy feet]

I'm very new to all of this... but one thing seems constant so far -- no one agrees on the best way to take care of fish! haha.

At least for a beginner, the test kits make me feel like I am taking proper care of my fish. Once my tanks cycle and fish are happy -- I can see myself not testing very often.

Exactly, ammonia, nitrite and nitrate is nothing a good old water change can't fix

or proper attention to the bio load of your tank and maybe testing your water more frequently?

if you have ammonia or nitrite in your water and there is fish in that tank, you have failed your fish and perhaps this forum can help you
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Please give it a rest, if your tanks stocked ok and you do weekly/bi weekly water changes nothing will go wrong in the sense of ammmonia, nitrite and nitrate.Unless a fish dies.You may even get away with monthly!And as T1tanrush is not inexperienced she/he must do those things or his/her fish would be dead or extremely stunted.

 

[t1tanrush]

Cheesy feet speaks so much troof its unbearable and the people arguing with me are now afraid to continue!

 

[fry_lover]

Cheesy feet speaks so much troof its unbearable and the people arguing with me are now afraid to continue!

this isn't a game, it feels like a couple of 13 year olds are now running riot on this thread, the debate is test kits, its best to test your water, thats my view and many others

 

[t1tanrush]

Cheesy feet speaks so much troof its unbearable and the people arguing with me are now afraid to continue!

this isn't a game, it feels like a couple of 13 year olds are now running riot on this thread, the debate is test kits, its best to test your water, thats my view and many others

Many others have been sucked into the same view as yours without hearing the other side of things!
Don't speak for others please.

 

[backtotropical]

If cheesyfeet speaks so much troof, does overfeeding not cause a build up of ammonia etc. The answer is yes.

Fact is, prevention is better than cure, and testing helps prevention, and nobody is afraid of you. Get a grip of yourself.

Also, if you cant be bothered to test your water, i doubt you bother to check for dead fish every day, or even change any water. That stands to reason for me.

 

[t1tanrush]

If cheesyfeet speaks so much troof, does overfeeding not cause a build up of ammonia etc. The answer is yes.

Fact is, prevention is better than cure, and testing helps prevention, and nobody is afraid of you. Get a grip of yourself.

See here is what you do:
1. Test your kit.
2. change your water.
3. end up with a clean tank.

I do:
1. change the water.
2. end up with clean tank.

Oh snap same result in the end ! In both cases we end with a fresh tank, regardless of if we wasted money making a something turn purple.

 

[fry_lover]

If cheesyfeet speaks so much troof, does overfeeding not cause a build up of ammonia etc. The answer is yes.

Fact is, prevention is better than cure, and testing helps prevention, and nobody is afraid of you. Get a grip of yourself.

See here is what you do:
1. Test your kit.
2. change your water.
3. end up with a clean tank.

I do:
1. change the water.
2. end up with clean tank.

Oh snap same result in the end ! In both cases we end with a fresh tank, regardless of if we wasted money making a something turn purple.

so what do you think we do (people who test water) never do water changes?

water changes are NOT for reducing ammonia and nitrite they should ALREADY be ZERO, although YES you can water change to reduce ammonia and nitrite IF you have failed your fish previously as i mentioned in a previous post

 

[backtotropical]

You cant know if its the same result if you never test. SIMPLE. You cant argue that, its fact.

Don't you get it If you dont measure it, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON!!!

You obviously dont understand the nitrogen cycle which is crucial to keeping HEALTHY fish, and you wont listen so good luck.

BTW, water changes reduce nitrAte too.