My Guppy Fry Journal

Keep up water changes to keep your water chemistry in line and add back your treatment chemicals with the new water so that treatment goes on uninterrupted. Each should be treated as a separate consideration. The ich treatment must be maintained constantly or the fish will re-infested but water chemistry must also be maintained or it will decimate your fish population just as quickly as the ich.
 
Keep up water changes to keep your water chemistry in line and add back your treatment chemicals with the new water so that treatment goes on uninterrupted. Each should be treated as a separate consideration. The ich treatment must be maintained constantly or the fish will re-infested but water chemistry must also be maintained or it will decimate your fish population just as quickly as the ich.

So should I add the salt to the bucket before putting it in? I have been putting the buckets in then putting the salt in. I shall do that the now as i'm about to do a water change.
Thanks
 
Ok I just did a water change-I always get so panicky in case I syphon up one of the babies! I always check the bucket just in case.
I will continue the salt and high temp all this week and if the white spots are still on the babies (one of them is covered poor thing) then I will need to get protozin but I won't give up the natural remedy just yet.
 
There is nothing particularly more natural about using salt. Salt is not a part of any typical freshwater environment. It does have benefits, like not killing off your cycle bacteria. Nothing will help an individual fish as such with ich. Ich is a parasite and any ich spots on your fish will go through the natural biological process of developing into a mature cyst and dropping off the fish. What we try to do with medication, which makes continuous medication so important, is to interrupt the reproductive cycle of that parasite. The parasite can only be killed when it is free-swimming and looking for a new host. For us that means using salt or another control that can kill off the free-swimming stage of the parasite. Since each individual ich spot is a separate infestation, each one counts as an infestation. The disease does not work the way we are accustomed to thinking about disease in humans where a bug infects us and we treat it using systemic medications. It is more like trying to control fleas where only the fleas in the carpet are susceptible to the poisons. As soon as the last parasite is gone from each fish it is cured if we can prevent a fresh infestation. The medication we use tries to prevent that infestation. Since ich parasites can not survive long without a host, a few days after the last spot is gone from the last fish means that all parasites are gone from the tank environment. It means you have succeeded.
 
There is nothing particularly more natural about using salt. Salt is not a part of any typical freshwater environment. It does have benefits, like not killing off your cycle bacteria. Nothing will help an individual fish as such with ich. Ich is a parasite and any ich spots on your fish will go through the natural biological process of developing into a mature cyst and dropping off the fish. What we try to do with medication, which makes continuous medication so important, is to interrupt the reproductive cycle of that parasite. The parasite can only be killed when it is free-swimming and looking for a new host. For us that means using salt or another control that can kill off the free-swimming stage of the parasite. Since each individual ich spot is a separate infestation, each one counts as an infestation. The disease does not work the way we are accustomed to thinking about disease in humans where a bug infects us and we treat it using systemic medications. It is more like trying to control fleas where only the fleas in the carpet are susceptible to the poisons. As soon as the last parasite is gone from each fish it is cured if we can prevent a fresh infestation. The medication we use tries to prevent that infestation. Since ich parasites can not survive long without a host, a few days after the last spot is gone from the last fish means that all parasites are gone from the tank environment. It means you have succeeded.

Thanks for that explanation. The fry who was covered in spots only has one left on his top fin. So I hope that's a good sign. I will continue the salt all this week.

>Pete< - is that what causes it? Since being in the main tank i've only been feeding the fry once-in the morning when I feed the adults. I just crush the flake up. Then get the syphon, clean the sand, then add the salt back in.
 
Overfeeding will not cause ich directly but can cause water quality issues that in turn can stress the fish and cause disease outbreak.
 
Overfeeding will not cause ich directly but can cause water quality issues that in turn can stress the fish and cause disease outbreak.

Ah right. I have only been feeding them once a day for the last week, but that's when I seen the spots. Could be linked.
I've just did a water change and added the salt water back in. I just want it gone :(
 
So even thought I am having this ich issue, here is a little video of my fry. I did have about 21-22 but I seem to have around the 14-15 mark. I noticed the female who had the babies a week ago is chasing them. I think some must have been eaten. They have grown incredibly since the heat was turned up, the biggest one being the size of a tetra-he's massive! Anyway here they are.
http://s1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/TiggsGTI/New%20tank%20progress/?action=view&current=VIDEO0002.mp4
Thanks
 
Fry are so cute!

Yeah I could sit there watching them for hours :) The little grey fry with the red eyes is getting dark fins and tail. I can't wait to see what colours they turn out :)

So I have noticed that the blonde female, who's fry will be 2 weeks old on saturday is big again. So no doubt she will drop in about 3 weeks time.
I do hope this problem is eradicated. The good news is the adults don't have any spots. Unless they haven't had it and will be infested within the next few days.
Only the female with the leopard markings on her tail had them she now has none and her colours changed too :blink:
My all blue males gotten darker, he has no white patches on his body anymore, his body is dark blue, so are his fins but his tails turned yellow.
Is colour change anything to do with the high temp or is it just they are growing?
 
Phew..!

I was getting worried there...

Stay your way ! :good:
 
Phew..!

I was getting worried there...

Stay your way ! :good:

:)

I just did a water change and I took the bogwood out for the time being so I can get the syphon into that side. That gives the fry more room to swim. The fry who had all the spots only has 1. I hope it falls of soon. None of them are flashing anymore. None of the adults have spots anymore so i'm hoping they aren't going to suddenly all get infested. That would be awful. Just have to wait and see.
 
So today marks a week i've been treating the tank with salt. 2 of the babies still have spots. One has a spot on his tail and the other has a spot on his fin and his tail.
Still no adult fish have spots so I will continue the treatment and hope for the best.
Thankyou to everyone for your support.
 

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