I just seen a shocking video

[enchanted]

All I'm saying is that it doesn't seem right to put a perfectly healthy animal which has an otherwise potentially long and fulfilling (reproductively speaking).

Have you ever been around rabbits? My family raised them when I was younger for food. I'll tell you what, they can "breed". There are some areas that consider rabbits a straight pest, worse than weed plants.

Other areas have had to introduce various snacks and other predators to deal with rabbits that weren't meant to be there in the first place.

Mice are almost as bad once they get a foot hold...

I have never heard of rabbits being fed to snakes though, this was a first and unless it was a "Really Big" snake, that doesn't seem quite right..

But you also have to understand that most snakes kill there food quickly, either by venom or crushing. There is no suffering time (other than fear of death).

What was done to the Oscar is different in my opinion. It wasn't a fair fight, but it wasn't a one sided fight either. If there had been enough pirhanas, or the pirahnas had been large enough, to make a quick end then it would not have been as bad.

I don't agree with having fed the Oscar to the Pirhanas, but each to there own. What I believe was wrong was in the fact of the time it took for it to happen.

 

[Ben]

lol i just got a warning from the admin cuz i was really damn annoyed with them so i got a warning

i guess i really did give them a piece of my mind

 

[Dwarfs]

lol i just got a warning from the admin cuz i was really damn annoyed with them so i got a warning

i guess i really did give them a piece of my mind

I saw that

 

[robbrouse]

So before I add my thoghts on this I'd need to take a look at it. How about a link. you can PM me if you'd like.

Robb

 

[David]

All I'm saying is that it doesn't seem right to put a perfectly healthy animal which has an otherwise potentially long and fulfilling (reproductively speaking).

Have you ever been around rabbits? My family raised them when I was younger for food. I'll tell you what, they can "breed". There are some areas that consider rabbits a straight pest, worse than weed plants.

Other areas have had to introduce various snacks and other predators to deal with rabbits that weren't meant to be there in the first place.

Mice are almost as bad once they get a foot hold...

I have never heard of rabbits being fed to snakes though, this was a first and unless it was a "Really Big" snake, that doesn't seem quite right..

But you also have to understand that most snakes kill there food quickly, either by venom or crushing. There is no suffering time (other than fear of death).

What was done to the Oscar is different in my opinion. It wasn't a fair fight, but it wasn't a one sided fight either. If there had been enough pirhanas, or the pirahnas had been large enough, to make a quick end then it would not have been as bad.

I don't agree with having fed the Oscar to the Pirhanas, but each to there own. What I believe was wrong was in the fact of the time it took for it to happen.

You misunderstand me. I have no problem with things like snakes being used to control animals like rabbits and mice IN THE OPEN. But I am totally against throwing a live rabbit into a confined space like a vivarium with, say, a burmese python. Or an oscar into an aquarium with a shoal of piranhas, for that matter.

 

[Vip]

I've said it before and I'll say it again Pirahna keepers can be down right wierd.

As to P's eating people there are many cases of it happening. Locals in pirahna infested areas won't enter deep still water for feer of getting bitten or eaten and many early westerners met there end at the jaws of pirahnas, heck I think it was way back in 1935 some 300 people were eaten by a shoal of P's after a steam boat capsized. Pirahnas are not gentle fish and they arent just viscious when really hungry (even when fed mostly dead things a pirahna in a tank will eat a live feeder if it can even when they are well fed)

There has never been a report of a P killing a human or attacking them to kill them, people get little bites from them just about everyday from people swimming with them and stuff, but from what i have been reading and i have been doing alot of, it doesnt seem to say they are agressive or anything, if anything a dovii and other cichlids seem to be more agressive at breeding times, attacking divers and the such.

 

[robgurr]

i agree... thats just wrong to have filmed it but it is just like feeding them regular feeding fish

 

[Synirr]

Just because I like to stir things up... if fish can't feel pain, why are we so against dyeing?

 

[Opcn]

I just told you there was a report back in 1935 But that may have been black P's also at the moth of the amazon Surfers have been attacked by P's

 

[Ben]

lol i just got a warning from the admin cuz i was really damn annoyed with them so i got a warning

i guess i really did give them a piece of my mind

I saw that

lol

im a nice guy, just not when people do something liek that

 

[Timmy]

The RSPCA believe fish feel pain: http/www.pisces.demon.co.uk/pain.html
and if the oscar/pirahna feeding happened in England I would expect a prosecution from them.

As far as I'm concerned the jury on fish pain is still out and I believe we should give our little pals the benefit of the doubt.

 

[Teelie]

I've said it before and I'll say it again Pirahna keepers can be down right wierd.

As to P's eating people there are many cases of it happening. Locals in pirahna infested areas won't enter deep still water for feer of getting bitten or eaten and many early westerners met there end at the jaws of pirahnas, heck I think it was way back in 1935 some 300 people were eaten by a shoal of P's after a steam boat capsized. Pirahnas are not gentle fish and they arent just viscious when really hungry (even when fed mostly dead things a pirahna in a tank will eat a live feeder if it can even when they are well fed)

Myth, debunked on Snopes I believe.

 

[pnyklr3]

Debating this will end as quickly as a debate about politics or religion: never. But I do enjoy reading posts from people who have botha brain and an opinion!

 

[Teelie]

The RSPCA believe fish feel pain: http/www.pisces.demon.co.uk/pain.html
and if the oscar/pirahna feeding happened in England I would expect a prosecution from them.

As far as I'm concerned the jury on fish pain is still out and I believe we should give our little pals the benefit of the doubt.

The RSPCA report is outdated compared to the more recent one posted, and by most of the facts to date.

 

[Timmy]

The RSPCA believe fish feel pain: http/www.pisces.demon.co.uk/pain.html
and if the oscar/pirahna feeding happened in England I would expect a prosecution from them.

As far as I'm concerned the jury on fish pain is still out and I believe we should give our little pals the benefit of the doubt.

The RSPCA report is outdated compared to the more recent one posted, and by most of the facts to date.

Dr Rose’s argument* is interesting but does seem to be just an argument rather than a proof. Until someone can prove that fish do not feel pain then I will continue to give them (the fish) the benefit of the doubt.

*I must admit to only scan reading it though

My point about the RSPCA was that they, I believe, would consider it cruel and would bring a prosecution against the offender.

(A little bit of Googling quickly reveals that not everyone agrees with Dr Rose (and I don’t just mean PETA (spits))