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I definitely need to track that down! This fat bugger has been my go-to, but it came out almost 30 years after Innes's book and it'd be interesting to compare the two.
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Yet another of the scoundrel Axelrod's underhanded moves: stealing Innes's title. The word "Exotic" to describe what had previously and commonly been called "tropical" fishes was Innes's invention, and Axelrod's book and the choice of title was a clear effort to mislead the buying public as to what book this actually was. He had already stolen Innes's images, for which he got sued and lost, and later, when the copyright of EAF expired, he then stole the book itself. As I've often said, Axelrod had pathological Innes-envy.

If you do get a copy of Innes, make sure you get one of the original 19 editions and not Metaframe's or, worse, Axelrod's bastardizations of same. The real deal is recognized by the green cover with a stamped-in-gold image of a trio of Harlequin Rasboras.
 
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Thanks Fishmanic! Yours is another one I'd have never guessed so thanks too for the clarification, and I do hereby solemnly swear that I will try not to get up to any mischief. :hatchetchase:
And I definitely intend to enter, and win by huge margins, every contest held! Besides the international audience that's one of the big appeals to this forum. I've only got 4 tanks though, and a completely graceless cat, so I'm afraid I won't have too many entries before people start asking "Hey, are you really going to post that AGAIN?'
I'm all about low maintenance so my little glass boxes don't change much, except for never-ending plant rotation. IE: New pretty in, dead not-so-pretty out.

I'm not really sure where I'd post pics. I've considered starting a journal, as I'm about to tear down a relatively new bowfront and start over, but once the transformation is complete there really wouldn't be much to write about. Kinda seems like a waste of bandwidth.

@GaryE & @Innesfan Yikes! Message received! Do not bring up the A word!
To be completely honest I had no idea about Axelrod-had to look up what you were talking about. The PT Barnum of fish indeed. Now I'm questioning if I can trust anything in that huge book. It's not the only one of his I've got either.

They may both find themselves in the ol' wood burning stove this winter.
 
@GaryE & @Innesfan Yikes! Message received! Do not bring up the A word!
To be completely honest I had no idea about Axelrod-had to look up what you were talking about. The PT Barnum of fish indeed. Now I'm questioning if I can trust anything in that huge book. It's not the only one of his I've got either.
Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. While it might not be my favorite book, there's merit to some of it. And his collaborators were better at it than he was, and they probably did the heavy lifting writing-wise.

But he was a scoundrel and an olympic liar. Some of his fantasies: he claimed to have met Emperor Hirohito and had a discussion of marine invertebrates with him. He said he corresponded with Winston Churchill about goldfish, and attended lectures at Princeton by Albert Einstein. He claimed to have swum 24 km across Lake Ontario at the age of 10, and collected black panthers in the Amazon jungle for Walt Disney. All have been debunked.

The Hirohito myth was another bit of Innes-envy. The Emperor, when he was the Crown Prince and an avid aquarist, visited Philadelphia expressly to meet Innes and get a tour of the fish rooms of the legendary Philly aquarists, especially the goldfish breeders. Innes chronicled this in his magazine, The Aquarium. So Axelrod, of course, had to co-opt the story.
 
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Still, disappointing to discover after all these years. I was a kid when I bought that book and it took a LOT of weed pulling, mowing, and throwing papers to be able to buy it. I'd probably gone through the whole book several times at the LFS before the owner decided that just looking better turn into an actual purchase, and soon.
My brother thought it was like reading the dictionary but I devoured every last word. And it has been useful over the years.

I guess it can stay on the shelf. Man, some people suck.
C'est la vie. I have other resources.
 
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It is, because you said so. Who am I to argue with mods? Actually I had your avatar figured out already. Back in the fold sounds like an origami-er, (yes, that's a word) and your pic is an amazingly realistic folded flying fahrvergnugen fish!

Well, ok, apparently not. But I wasn't too far off base.

Did I say irreverent? I meant iridescent. You know, like a rainbow, or mother of pearl. Which is appropriate, because I am chock full of shimmery PEARLS of wisdom!:yahoo:
 
Pearls. Throw them as you will, because some of us are swine on our bad days.

The Axelrod book has its merits, largely because he didn't write all his own stuff. He liked to use European writers, and I mean use. There was a tradition there that the knowledge and the sharing of knowledge came first, ahead of the money. So he would butter up the European scientists and researchers, offer them a forum for spreading their knowledge through his huge publishing empire (huge in the hobby) and then make a killing. He used to brag about it.

I used to work for TFH, as a paid by the article writer, just post Axelrod when they were trying to set a new course (which they have - I have great respect for them now) but were still stuck in the old ways. We discussed a book and they offered me about 10 percent of what other publishers later felt was a low basic advance. He ran a successful business, but created a lot of enemies with his cut throat approach. Plus, he was a braggart. Nowadays, many of the things he did would be socially acceptable, especially the self promotion. He was ahead of his time, and he made himself a millionaire.

I was very disappointed by all this when I learned it. That book was something I saved up for for a long time., as a kid. I got one of the TFH Innes versions first, and loved it. Innes could write, and the book had a warmth that shone through. I still look at Innes and enjoy it, as while it is dated, it offers some good hacks from the low tech era. I haven't opened the Axelrod brick in many years, but I still regularly look into the way larger Baensch series. I recently looked up info on a fish the internet sources had suggested had not been bred in captivity, and there in Baensch was a report of how it had been done 50 years ago.

I was working on a project way back when and decided to trace some myths about gouramis that people kept repeating. They tended to lead back to Axelrod, because in that era, he was dealing in fish we didn't know. He had a tendency to make guesses as to how things would be, and he presented them as guesses. I have to give him credit there. But later, the 'may' and 'could' statements vanished, and the guesses became 'facts', often in the hands of other writers. So you have to read him with a grain of salt and double check with other sources. He was a modern guy in his greed and lack of dignity about it, and would have had a great youtube channel.
 
My ex would claim I'm a swine every day, good or bad. She's wrong. I wouldn't be any good on a BLT.

I was working on a project way back when and decided to trace some myths about gouramis that people kept repeating. They tended to lead back to Axelrod, because in that era, he was dealing in fish we didn't know.
That's the sort of mindset I don't understand. I suppose with pathological liars it's a chemical thing. From what I've gathered so far, Innes had been publishing The Aquarium periodical for quite some time before his book was released. One would presume he'd have at least a modicum of knowledge regarding gouramis, and would have presented it in either format. From which it was plagiarized by Axelrod, if not from some other source. I know that sounds sour, but the more I find out about the charlatan the more I'm convinced he didn't accomplish much actual research on his own. So why the further embellishments? Myth as marketing? Low self-esteem?

Other than Instructor Earl, (don't ask) live performances, or sov-cits getting tased I don't watch a lot of youtube but he would definitely have found an audience there.
 
Axelrod got done for tax evasion in the end. But he was a New York guy who parlayed fish selling into a multi-million business in the 50s, 60s and 70s. He seems to have been a narcissist, and a compulsive liar, but those are skills, not defects now. He was a man ahead of his time.

My favourite anecdote was a story he bribed a researcher to name a beautiful new Cory after him, and the clever guy took the money up front and did what he was paid to do. Corydoras narcissus. It's a beauty.
 
The only thing I know about Axelrod is that his name is fun to say (but of course, so is Innes) and he has a lot of really pretty fish named after him. Furthermore, that's all I need to know. But I tend to take Proverbs 26:17 to heart. :lol:

My current avatar is a picture a parent sketched for me after a concert. (I'm a music teacher) It's weird and funny, and actually captures a little bit of why I do what I do. So I like it. But in real life my beard isn't nearly as cool as this guy's. Nor is my hat.
 
My favourite anecdote was a story he bribed a researcher to name a beautiful new Cory after him, and the clever guy took the money up front and did what he was paid to do. Corydoras narcissus. It's a beauty.
Also one of my favorite Axelrod stories! The cory was collected purportedly by the rasbora authority, Martin Brittan and Axelrod (I bet it actually was Brittan alone) and then described by Nijessen and Isbrucker, who named it narcissus to recognize the collectors "for their many naming suggestions." I've never seen such an elegant middle finger put in writing in a scientific paper.
 
The only thing I know about Axelrod is that his name is fun to say (but of course, so is Innes) and he has a lot of really pretty fish named after him.
There's the rub. Most if not all of those pretty fish never would have been named for him without his bullying, bribing or extorting the scientists doing the naming, or his flagrantly violating the rules and procedures of the international commission that oversees the process. Most infamously was the naming of the cardinal tetra. Myers and Weitzman got there first, but Axelrod back-dated the issue of TFH in which his puppet, Schultz, named the species after him. Everyone in the field knew what happened, and many refused to acknowledge Schultz's description (see below, from a late edition of Innes) and even the ICZN acknowledged in their reluctant ruling that the pub date on the TFH issue was highly suspicious.

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Does the TFH still publish? If so, is it worth reading?
 

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