Are feeder fish legal ?

[Rainbow_fish]

U know, i thoght goldfish were compatible with my barramundi, untill he ate them. Hehe
John

 

[Phantom Thief]

Look, it is quite simple.

Both the R.S.P.C.A and DEFRA have deemed the feeding of live vertibrates to other living animals is cruel. The house of commons and house of lords aggreed and passed the law.

It is therefore, illegal in England, Northern Ireland and Wales to feed live fish to other fish. I belive it is the same in Scotland, but Scottish law is often different to the rest of the UK.

Wether you aggree with the law or not is not the issue, the fact is that it is law and you should follow it.
BTW ignorance of a law is not a good enough defence in court.

That's only for you British, we who are outside of it can still argue about it

P.T.

 

[Bryan]

So when was the last time you ate a live cow?

Every cow was alive before you ate it, same with the chickens. Just because you didn't kill it don't make any difference, it was still killed to feed you.

Fish eat other fish, what are we gonna do, go to the lakes and ponds and imprison fish for eating other fish?

Should we slap a fine on a bass for eating a baby bluegill?

My wife didn't want me to buy a fish that would eat another fish, but when we were looking at some Jack Dempsys, said she wanted to buy a pair, but I would have to feed them and she wouldn't watch. Even though she didn't like it she knows it's natural. She was raised in the Philippines and she's had to kill chickens for dinner.

I can't understand why it's against the law in the UK, that's just stupid.

But I do think there is something wrong with people that just like to watch a fish get eaten, for the fun of watching death. I don't like pirahnas becuse of the way they eat the they and they are not a pretty fish. Most people buy them just to watch them tear up another fish, I think that's wrong. But I raised Oscars before, and I feed them goldfish, not to watch them eat but to give them what they need to be healthy. I bought them becuase they are a gracefull beautiful fish.

It's part of life for one animal to eat another...

(sorry to dissagree with you SirMinion)

 

[Bryan]

Look, it is quite simple.

Both the R.S.P.C.A and DEFRA have deemed the feeding of live vertibrates to other living animals is cruel. The house of commons and house of lords aggreed and passed the law.

It is therefore, illegal in England, Northern Ireland and Wales to feed live fish to other fish. I belive it is the same in Scotland, but Scottish law is often different to the rest of the UK.

Wether you aggree with the law or not is not the issue, the fact is that it is law and you should follow it.
BTW ignorance of a law is not a good enough defence in court.

it's not that simple. animals eat other animals. just because some idiots say it's cruel and pass some law don't mean there right. AND if you don't live under there jurisdiction you don't have to follow there stupid laws....

 

[Nospherith]

I don't see why it should be illegal. People repulsed by the occasional bit of gore have a bitter taste.

 

[KerriPaul]

Norman Stanley Fletcher. You did wilfully and without respect for your duty of care to the fry, allow a female guppy to bive birth in a tank contaning an angelfish, who did eat the said fry. You are a callous individual with no regard for the rights of little creatures. I have no choice other than to sentence you to five years imprisonment.

 

[Bryan]

Norman Stanley Fletcher. You did wilfully and without respect for your duty of care to the fry, allow a female guppy to bive birth in a tank contaning an angelfish, who did eat the said fry. You are a callous individual with no regard for the rights of little creatures. I have no choice other than to sentence you to five years imprisonment.

 

[CFC]

I probably own and have kept more predatory fish than everyone else who posted in this topic put together and how many live feeder fish do you think i use in a week?
The answer is ZERO, of my extensive list of predators which includes moray eels, toad fish, siamese tiger fish, African pikes, shovelnose catfishes, bichirs, snakeheads, stingrays, pike cichlids, sleaper gobies and more not one of them has ever been fed a live fish and all of them are healthy good sized specimins.
Of the other species i have kept in the past only 3 would not eat dead foods, these were needle nose gars, frogmouth catfish and South American leaf fish and all 3 of these species died off due to diseases introduced to their system by feeder fish.
My GF also keeps a snake which has never been fed live food, it is fed with frozen mice bought from the local pet shop.

While some people will argue that there is no difference in feeding a live animal to another animal than there is killing a animal first to use it as food but the key word here is HUMANE. When a animal is slaughtered for human consumption it is killed in the fastest most pain free way possible, if cows were chased around fields by men with meat cleavers being hacked to death slowly then there would be a public outcry. Animals intended for animal feed are no different and deserve some degree of humanity in the way they are killed and not have to spend their last moments being chased around a tiny enclosure by their worst nightmare simply for the pleasure of a sick individual who gets off on the suffering of another living creature. Imagine how you would feel if i posted pictures of my fish eating bettas or clown loaches.

 

[jflowers]

Jon

 

[OohFeeshy]

Hmm... Isn't it then illegal to feed fry to other fish? What if one fish eats another for reasons unbeknown (not likely but what the hey), then someone sees and reports you are feeding live fish.....

 

[jflowers]

Hmm... Isn't it then illegal to feed fry to other fish? What if one fish eats another for reasons unbeknown (not likely but what the hey), then someone sees and reports you are feeding live fish.....

This would be accidental of course

Jon

 

[Dwarfs]

Of the other species i have kept in the past only 3 would not eat dead foods, these were needle nose gars, frogmouth catfish and South American leaf fish and all 3 of these species died off due to diseases introduced to their system by feeder fish.

That's an example of how poorly the feeders are treated, and why I don't use them. My leaf fish gets a portion of brine shrimp weekly, until I can get a healthy amount of fish to supply him with.


I honestly think it is wrong to feed live fish to a fish that doesn't require tem to be healthy. It is only right if the fish is a full piscavore which won't eat dead fish, or a fish who only eats food with a heartbeat. If someone is feeding fish to an oscar because it's "picky", they obviously didn't try hard enough to find a suitable food for it.

I honestly don't find anything wrong with humans eating meat, or fish that need to eat live food

 

[Phantom Thief]

I honestly don't find anything wrong with humans eating meat, or fish that need to eat live food

Exactly!

P.T.

 

[Bryan]

I honestly don't find anything wrong with humans eating meat, or fish that need to eat live food

Exactly!

P.T.

Yea, that's what I was saying

 

[modernhamlet]

I don't think you should feed live fish to other fish unless it is a dietary requirement of the predator fish you keep. There are very few fish for which this is the case.

However, it should absolutely not be illegal.