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ElijahRich1113

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Background Info on Tank:
10 G (cycling since 5.7.22)
3F Molly
3(?) Yo-Yo Loach
2(?) Bristlenose Pleco
Temp: 78-80ĖšF
pH: ~7.8
Ammonia: ~*0 ppm; ~**0.5 ppm
Nitrites: ~*0 ppm; ~**0 ppm
Nitrates: ~*40 ppm; ~**30 ppm
*: as of 6.18.22
**: as of 7.2.22

**Note: Im not a professional, just a new hobbyist looking to help others
-This entry is a series of notes Iā€™ve taken while I was treating a new Bristlenose Pleco for Columnaris (or at least the presumed illness), that I am posting/cross-posting to spread awareness/information. I bought a new bristlenose pleco and 3 yoyo loaches from my local Petco on 6.16, and 2 days later I noticed these 2 white spots on the B.P. One was on the right side of the head, and another was on the outside bone of the front right fin, and they werenā€™t fuzzy or raised, but very obviously not normal. I immediately took the web and found various sources from other fish forum websites, leading me to believe this was Columnaris.
IMG_0784.jpg pictures from day 1 and 4 IMG_0856.jpg
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-I quarantined the infected fish and left to go buy Kordon ā€˜Methylene Blueā€™, Jungle ā€˜Fungus Clearā€™, and Seachem ā€˜Kanaplexā€™. The methylene blue would be used to dip the infected fish, I believe to help in general disease mitigation/prevention (like vitamin c when getting sick? LOL), the fungus clear (nitrofurazone) would be used to kill and bacteria from the water or the fish, and the Kanaplex as an antibacterial medicine to prevent further infection and promote recovery. I also reduced the temperature to ~75Ėš F to lower the spreading rate of the bacteria. For the M.B. bath, I prepared a 3G bucket with <~5 teaspoons of M.B. and dipped the B.P. only for 10 seconds in a net. Then I returned the fish to the tank and added the other medicine. The J.F.C. is a dissolvable tablet containing Nitrofurazone and potassium dichromate, with the Nitrofurazone being the important ingredient (another product that can be used is Furan-2 according to my research), that turned my tank a bright green to dull yellow over the treatment. My dosing was 1 tablet per 10G, with a 25% water change before the second dose on day 4, and I removed my carbon from the filter per instructions. Then I added the Kanaplex which was powder in a bottle, dosing of 1 level measure per 5G, every 2 days for a maximum of 3 doses (Kanaplex is hard on liver is higher doses, so follow instructions).
-Following treatment over the next few days, I noticed the 2 infected areas didnā€™t spread or get larger but started to act almost like scabs. The spot on the right side of the head revealed an open sore/scar beneath, while the spot on the fin left an eaten away fin bone. On 6.24 there was an ammonia spike that brought my tank to almost 2.0-4.0 ppm ammonia, despite the fish showing no signs of ammonia poisoning (if that is the correct term, fish were acting normal/fine). I added an ammonia remover to neutralize the active ammonia, slowly removing it. I also performed another water change, increased the temp back to 80Ėš F, and removed a plant that had been rotting lesser to my knowledge. Additionally, Iā€™ve had the problem of snails getting stuck below my filter media section which could have also contributed to the spike (not sure but if anyone knows how to remove/stop the snails from getting in the filter or a filter good against them please let me know!). Today, 2 weeks after originally finding the infection, the afflicted fish is doing great! There wasnā€™t a single day the fish acted sick, and it is also coming into color now that it is settling in the tank. The scar on the side of its head has almost if not completely disappeared, re-healing perfectly. It is hard to tell, but I also believe that the fin is healing as there is what looks like healing near the base of the fin going outward.
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spot by face gone
gap between bone on fin
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-During this whole ordeal, no other fish seemed affected by the ill fish or the medicine and continued on normally. My first B.P. was very curious about the new one, but I was scared it would get infected but so far nothing. I also considered adding aquarium salt to my tank as a last resort, but as of now it doesnā€™t like a necessity, same as multiple M.B. dips, I didnā€™t want to possibly harm the fish. If symptoms are bad or getting worse, I think these 2 could be additional helpful steps, but action should be taken as soon as possible to save your fish. My fish went from being normal to looking infected within 2 days, any longer and it might have died or spread the disease, as Columnaris has multiple strains that work at different speeds.
 
I wouldnā€™t add any medication unless you have absolute certainty that is the disease/ condition you need to treat. Always post as much about it on here, in the mean time to 75% water change + gravel vacuum every day for a week.
 
Hi and welcome to the forum :)

Good to see the fish is better. :)

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For anyone reading this, the first thing to do when you get a sick fish is identify the problem. In this case it does not look like Columnaris. It appears to have a physical injury that has fungus and excess mucous on. This injury probably occurred at the shop when they were catching the fish.

Methylene Blue and clean water would have probably been sufficient to treat it.

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Mixing medications can be bad. You can easily poison the fish with too many chemicals in the water, or the chemicals/ medications can react with each other to form other types of poisonous compounds.

Methylene Blue kills fungus and bacteria.

Jungle Fungus Clear contains Nitrofurazone, which is an antibiotic (kills bacteria). It also contains Potassium Dichromate, which is a harmful substance used to disinfect/ clean things in water, and other applications.

Kanaplex is an antibiotic (Kanamycin) designed for people and kills bacteria, but should only be used as a last resort on known bacterial infections.

Improper use and mis-use of antibiotics has lead to drug resistant bacteria that kill people, birds, animals, fish and reptiles.

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When using medications on fish, try to clean the tank before re-treating it. Basically wipe the inside of the glass down, do a complete gravel clean and 100% water change before re-dosing the medication. To do this, drain 90% of the water out and refill the tank, then do another 90% water change.

If there's a filter in the tank, clean that too, along with any ornaments, heaters, etc.
*NB* Make sure any new water is free of chlorine/ chloramine before it's added to the tank.

*NB* Make sure the new water has the same pH, GH, KH and temperature to the old water that is being removed.

Medications leave a film over things and so does the dead bacteria, fungus and other microscopic organisms, and you need to get rid of this so harmful disease organisms don't hide in it and re-infect the fish after you finish treating them.
 
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