Wild fish in local lake

[nc_nutcase]

Seeing that your not looking to steal the fish to do some pseudo scientific experiment or some freaky fetish stuff Id try tellin the truth. You saw them, they were pretty, you want to put one in your fish tank. I think that story would get you out of any trouble quicker than half the suggestions I've read here so far....

Although I gotta give credit to the members on creativity, lol.

And if all else fails... flirt your way out (damn that female sex appeal!)

 

[pnyklr3]

Hmmm, seems to me to be a cure-all!

 

[abstract]

don't mean to bash...but i can't believe all of you fish lovers are condoning capturing fish and discussing the legality of it.... being the fact that it is a private lake/pond (from the sounds of it), it is most definitly illegal to steal their stock...

and even if it wasn't private, and no one was around, how could you feel OK about taking a WILD fish and making it domesticated, even just temporarily.....now I realize that some fish we buy are caught in the wild and there is nothing we can do about it - but couldn't see any one of us taking a fish out of their natural habitat?!!?

and Raechal, I realize you were not planning on catching/keeping them - this is aimed at all of those saying it is OK, for some reason...

 

[nc_nutcase]

well... someone could equally argue that if we didn't house fish then every fish would live in a natural environment and in all reality... would be better off.

Ultimately fish keeping (as is most every pet keeping) is selfish as we are maintaining animals in unnatural environments for our own personal amusement...

 

[MegTheFish]

Personally, I wouldn't do it, because I think its mean to take a fish out of its natural habitat (our fish were bred in captivity, or atleast most of them were, so its not really the same). But then again, this is how we ended up with all the fish we keep in aquaruims, soo....*shrug*

 

[abstract]

well... someone could equally argue that if we didn't house fish then every fish would live in a natural environment and in all reality... would be better off.

Ultimately fish keeping (as is most every pet keeping) is selfish as we are maintaining animals in unnatural environments for our own personal amusement...

regardless, my statement was about morals, not philosophy....wether WE keep fish or not, they will be bred (unnaturally) and then sold to SOMEONE - we are just putting them into better, more cared for, and more individualized homes than they live in now (hopefully).....equivalent to buying a domesticated dog from a pound, where it would get little attention and live in poorer conditions than you can provide, in my opinion.....

but, taking a fish out of its natural habitat yourself - taking away that fishes freedom (freedom most/all domesticated [for lack of better term] fish have never experienced) is completely different.......equivalent to taking in a wild tiger cub that is a few months old, and keeping it in a cage in your back yard because it is pretty (may be a little extreme, but the same none the less)....

now, i really really do not want to start an argument or even a discussion about this topic (especially in this thread), because i know it will get nowhere.....i just think you should all be ashamed for even suggesting the idea of taking the fish out of their native lands, and hope my reasoning will at least make you second-guess your own beliefs about this subject, even if you still completely disagree

 

[abstract]

But then again, this is how we ended up with all the fish we keep in aquaruims, soo....*shrug*

but, as BigC mentioned - if you know who to contact (and a lot of people here DO know who to contact) - you can obtain either eggs (or the fish themselves) for just about any species of fish you may find in the wild (that they know will survive in the aquarium environment), from any fish association...

 

[pica_nuttalli]

and even if it wasn't private, and no one was around, how could you feel OK about taking a WILD fish and making it domesticated, even just temporarily.....now I realize that some fish we buy are caught in the wild and there is nothing we can do about it - but couldn't see any one of us taking a fish out of their natural habitat?!!?

well, i feel ok about eating wild caught fish, so i'm comfortable with keeping them too.

actually, i don't feel comfortable keeping imported wild-caughts as it can't be good for their natural habitat to be continually depleted of large quanities of fish. also most of these fish come from environments i would be challenged to replicate, such as rice paddies, huge rivers, and rift lakes. i'm just a casual hobbyist and can't afford the time, space, and money to recreate biotopes. so i don't try to.

however, i'd feel fine keeping 2-3 fish caught from a southeastern US pond. that's an enviroment i could easily replicate, seeing as i could just drive back for a reference every time i had a question. also i would only be removing 2-3 fish dumb enough to be caught from the wild breeding population as opposed to the massive numbers that would be removed by a commercial operation.

this also is presuming that these are indigenous to the area and should exist in this environment already. if this is a lake connected with other waterways and these fish are introduced, then i would feel obligated to report it to my local environmental authority. they would then investigate the infestation and probably attempt to completely eradicate the introduced species so that it could not destroy the natural ecological balance of my local waterways. i'm sure they wouldn't mind me keeping a few specimens for my home aquaria in that instance.

 

[gadazobe]

Calm down - what started as a purely innocent thread is being turned upside down into a criminalistic outlook on fish

Please get back on the original subject, it would be a shame to close such an interesting thread.

 

[dwarf-puffers]

good luck getting the picture i have trouble getting pictures of the fish in my tank but when u do get thepicture i whould love to see it and remeber if you get caught play dumb say you didnt no that and that your sry trust me it works ( unless u get a really mean guy)

 

[nc_nutcase]

Abstract... I completely agree that we do not need to create a debate on the subject. I also encourage you to re-read your posts... you say it's a moral objection, not a philosophical one... then you pose a philosophical perspective to justify it...

Regardless we are talking of opinions and personal perspectives. We don't see eye to eye and that's fine. If everyone thought as I did I wouldn't get to enjoy logical debates

Do, in the future, bite your damn tongue when attempted to make statements that I should be ashamed of myself.

 

[pica_nuttalli]

Calm down - what started as a purely innocent thread is being turned upside down into a criminalistic outlook on fish

Please get back on the original subject, it would be a shame to close such an interesting thread.

sure thing, boss.

sorry if i got a little impassioned... i've gotta short temper (but its brief too! )

 

[willtang3000]

hi raechel would you like some tips on catching those fish because I have had 4years of catching fish experience instead of using that goldfish food try using bread it works great get your boyfriend to get a fishing rod and a couple of hooks and get those fish.for the best results get pieces of bread in a flake shape and fold it over the hook sandwhiching the hook and the bread will slowly sink and get a disgorger or pliers if the fish swallows the hook

 

[pica_nuttalli]

actually i vote against all suggestions of "hooks"

these fishies sound rather small and using a hook would probably do a substantial amount of damage, presuming they took it at all. the best suggestion i've heard is to just get a large net and grab them.

probably a well-cleaned pool skimmer would work well, seeing as it has a long pole and relatively fine netting. try submerging the net and waiting for 10~20 minutes with the net very still. then throw your bait in the general location above the net. as soon as you see the fish you want to catch over the net, lift it straight up! raise the net just enough so that the fish can't jump out, but not completely out of the water. repeat until successful.

other suggestions?

 

[nc_nutcase]

I like the process but disagree with the supplies...

Skimmer nets dont have much 'sag' to them (meaning the net is strung almost tight to the frame). The Pet Smart (Corportate Pet Store) by me carry large nets with small holes... I made a mental note when I saw them because I'll probably eventually need one for my pond. I think it would be perfect for what you are looking to do.