dont u want the lge then m8 yes its nice to have all that but when man u are only one away from 18 lge its not good
be good to win the lge to make it 19 two in front of them i love rafal but hes takes the champions lge first and the lge second and the rest in wot ever order he see's fit
Of course I want to win the league which is why changing managers is a BAD idea. Even if Ferguson came into Liverpool, he would want to get rid of loads of Benitez players and get loads of his own in, every manager is the same, so we'd be back to square one with another 3-5 years of other teams getting stronger while we rebuild.....again.
I don't think he does want the champions league or anything else more than the league, that's red top rag talk because we have been sucessful in the cups. But be honest, we have not been strong enough to compete for a league over 38 games, whereas we can win a cup, if you can't win the league, why not try for a cup whilst building the team up? It worked for Chelski, they were the cup kings before they pumped even more millions into it.
As for comparing his first 4 seasons with Fergies,that was 20 years ago.A lot has changed
That's right, 20 years ago there was only 1 consitantly strong team in the league - Liverpool, now there are three others in Arsenal, ManU and Chelsea and possibly within the next 2 years City, so it is much harder now to come from behind and win the league unless you have hundreds of millions of pounds being pumped in.
Everytime a manager has joined a big club, they talk about a 5 year plan to build the club, Benitez has had 4 and in the meantime the competition haven't stood still, they've all invested even more money. Utd have spent £32m on Berbatov and another supposed £32m to sign Tevez on top of the £31m for Rooney, yet with a pair of £20m strikers (Torres and Keane) and a £10m (Kuyt) the press are expecting Liverpool to compete and beat Utd.
What is needed is patience as long as the club is moving forward. Will I be happy with 3rd or 4th? no I won't be happy until we get our league title back, but if we don't win the league will I want the manager sacked? No that it the sort of ridiculous kneejerk reaction that saw Utd fans wanting Ferguson saked in 2006 cos they'd not won anything at all for 3 years. If however we start going backwards in terms of competitiveness like we did in the later years under Houllier then yes, maybe it's time to reconsider. And League position itself isn't important, first is first, everything else is irrelevant, if we are closing the gap in terms of points and challenging that is better than finishing 2nd but 30 points away.
Theres too many points dropped that ,IMO,they shouldn't be dropping
Of course there are, it happens, look at the start you have made to the season (or is dropping points against Newcastle at home acceptable?), or indeed the start you made last year! The points we dropped last season that we shouldn't have were the loss to Utd at Anfield and both of the draws against Chelsea, all 3 games we played well enough to win, but didn't, had we done so, we'd have been 1 point behind Utd and level on points with both Chelsea and Arsenal. So forget the draws against smaller teams, they are all we need to reverse and we've done one, now if we beat a few more smaller teams along the way we'll be challenging.
Rafa knows how to compete with the big boys with bigger wallets having knocked Real Madrid and Barcelona off the top twice in 3 years in la Liga, he just needs to be given the time and support to do the job, not kneejerk reactions like the lazy red top papers and fans of other clubs do. Keep sacking managers and we'll be Newcastle Utd in no time.
Arfie
and if we can't win it, I'd take the champions league as consolation.
And I firmly believe that we are.
