WalMart blows....

[Ethos]

I was just wondering, can the mods sticky this thread? I see the same results turn up each time, and maybe if we had a Walmart area, apart from this, where arguments aren't quite as recycled, where feelings can be a little more focused, where people can debate...

I like that idea
It'd be nice, so topics like this one dont keep floating around...

 

[cation]

Whatever. It's all well and good when it's bettas, but when it comes to the starving people in Bangladesh or somalia, are any of you running out there to adopt them?

Keep stating your opinions, by all means, you have every right to. But the high horses you sit upon are built on legs of matchsticks, with the loose glue of hypocricy. You act as though stopping the suffering is your goal, while not even wanting to look the true beast in the eyes.

Keep fighting for the one with your sad eyes and mute voices, buying what they are selling. I will continue to fight for the many.

 

[Ethos]

^Wow! If that wasn't the best said speech in 10 seconds of reading!
EDIT: I still do disagree though....I think....

 

[cation]

I really REALLY think the comment about the world not revolving around me was COMPLETELY uncalled for. And I also think that the fact that you go around on the "FRIENDLY" fish forum calling people names and belittling people, and acting so casual about it is kinda disturbing. Your comments are usually VERY snide and you always seem to have to toss one back to everyone. I have the potential inside me to be that exact same way, and that gets turned on in a heartbeat, but ONLY when I'm dealing with people who have it coming - i.e. people who intentionally mistreat or neglect animals, etc..

That's fine, bettamomma. You made multiple posts saying this thread WAS about you - it's not. Think what you want. I often think comments online atre directed at me when they're not. I have had the "world revolving around me" comment addressed to me many times, hence my wording of the comment. If you don't want people to think that, don't make it all about you.


As for name calling? Please. Show me. I rarely do it.

HOWEVER.... if you're truly going to call it a rescue, you better be making some kind of effort to make the store know that you are PISSED OFF about the way they kept their fish, because after all that is most likely the reason you took the fish home in the first place...

Exactly my point. Thanks for stating it so well.

 

[BettaMomma]

WUV - sign me up for that betta thingy.
We kinda chatted about it at one time before, but now I'm on FIRE. Bring it on.

I will not only be a member, I will be the f'ing leader of the entire midwest - whatever ya need me to be. And I will KICK ass at it too.

I already have at least one additional member without even asking.
Just know that I can't fly - it petrifies me, so wherever the protests are gonna be, give me enough advance warning so I can get there from Wisconsin in time.

 

[cation]

And I will KICK ass at it too.

Yes, you will. I know that, 100% in my heart. I believe in you, BettaMomma. You can choose to believe it or not, but most that know me here can attest to one thing - I mean what I say and I say what I mean.

You would kick total ass.

 

[BettaMomma]

Thanks.

 

[Synirr]

Your comments are usually VERY snide and you always seem to have to toss one back to everyone.

Sorry, but to be perfectly honest, I have to agree.
I think perhaps you should take a step back and think about how your word your posts. You seem quite articulate, so I can see no reason why you shouldn't be capable of getting your point across with a greater level of civility. There's something to be said for bluntness, but when speaking to peers whose minds you wish to sway, it is better to at least give the illusion that you respect them as equals.

 

[cation]

Hey, everyone's entitled to their opinion. I don't agree, but I understand why you would feel that way. I don't find having tact to be the most effective way to operate, particularly online. I simply say what I think, and try to avoid making personal attacks. If you don't like it, I understand. But I have my reasons for being as blunt as I am.

 

[Jezah]

I agree Synirr, the tone of cations messages is what caused the entire issue, I think. There is a nice way of expressing an opinion, and a not so nice way....unfortuantly cations messages were the not so nice variety. Dont get me wrong, I am not always the most eloquent person in the world....I sometimes rub people the wrong way when I say something. I do however APOLIGIZE if it comes out wrong....perhaps a certain someone should consider that as well...?

EDIT: Ok Cations, I see your point. However, you wont get anything but anger in response to your posts if you continue to post in such a "blunt"(as you put it, I would say rude...but hey)way. I also would reocomend you look at the header at the top of the page. See where it says "The Friendliest Forum Around"? Ya, last time I checked, friendly is the opposite of rude. Now you can be blunt without being abrasive and frankly...rude. Give it a try sometime, you may find you get a better response.

 

[cation]

Nothing I said came out any way but the way I meant it. If you don't like it, okay. I can deal with it.

Once again, I try to refrain from personal attacks. Clearly some of you don't feel that's an important trait - you feel fine attacking me. But being that I believe and stand for what I said, it doesn't really bother me. No apologies here, my friend.

 

[Jezah]

Read my edit please.

 

[cation]

I hate that thing. I've always lobbied to have it removed.

 

[cation]

Give it a try sometime, you may find you get a better response.

I have. As I mentioned, I don't find it effective.

I would also like to point out that it's a get what you give kinda deal. People are very emotional about the things that they care about - sometimes taking much of the emotion out of the conversation is a much more effective way to get things accomplished.

 

[Synirr]

I don't find having tact to be the most effective way to operate, particularly online.

Oh I understand you completely there. I don't bother with tact either then I'm talking to idiots
What you have to understand is that tact can be a beautifully effective tool, and believe me, on this forum, tact is going to get you miles further than your current tone ever will. Your "bluntness" is causing aggravation when the reaction you should be looking for is thought. People tend to ignore someone's point when their remark is interpreted as an attack. You need for people to be open to what you have to say, not on the defensive, and the only way you're going to get that is by changing the way you approach this issue.