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I add mine after I do a water change as I have large tanks with big dirty fish. 2-3 minutes of chlorine exposure not only acts as an antibiotic to my tanks, it acts as a sterilizer. I use the chlorine to my advantage as a lot of experienced keepers have. As far as adverse affects to my fish, there aren't any. My fish are happy, breeding and live out their lives to max. The last death I had was a 7 year old cory, which is quite old for a cory.Chloramine is toxic to fish at long exposure, not for 2-3 minutes lol.
Chloramine passes through the gills of fish and directly enters their bloodstream where it chemically binds to the iron in the hemoglobin in red blood cells causing a reduction in the cells capacity to carry oxygen.
Chlorine burns the edges of gills and destroys cells.
Chloramine and chlorine have a detrimental effect under any amount of exposure.This cannot be seen as desirable nor is it necessary,hence,why advocate adding water conditioner post as opposed to prior a water change?If you're going to put it in anyway, then why not do it prior?
You would probably find more potential hazards in a tank setup at your LFS than the hazard of chlorine/chloramine exposure for a couple of minutes.
Quite possibly,but how is that relevant?
2-3 minutes of chlorine exposure not only acts as an antibiotic to my tanks, it acts as a sterilizer. I use the chlorine to my advantage as a lot of experienced keepers have.
. As far as adverse affects to my fish, there aren't any.
There is no individual right way to keep fish, do water changes, perform other maintenance tasks & so on.
Wow, Tolak just layeth the smacketh down!!!
How do you enjoy your fish with your head so far up someone's ar%e?
Then do as you do. I explained why I do things as I do, and I do not believe that I m doing anything wrong. In fact, there are a bunch of extremely successful breeders and keepers that do as I do. If you don't like it, go on about your way. I haven't told you your way is wrong, so I do not believe my way needs to be critiqued as hard as your going about. So I'm going to get a step-stool to help you off your high horse now.You mean as far as you are aware.Do you believe chlorine/chloramine can differentiate between different organsims?It's toxic to all aquatic organisms, which, is the very reason why it's in your tap water in the first place.
My point is,regardless to the extent of the effect,it is wholly avoidable therefore unnecessary.
Would optimal results be when fish lives its expected lifespan? Wow....i seem to be achieving that...Yes chlorine is toxic to all organisms. Every medication we use in this hobby is also toxic, really no surprise to that. There is that saying, "That which cures can kill". Chlorine is no different then say an aquarium medication that uses formaldehyde, both are toxic and both can be beneficial short term depending on the dosage. We drink chlorinate water, though the chlorine levels in tap water are often really really low, if it posed a serious risk to the fish I'm sure you would not want to drink it...
There will always be many different successful ways to run an aquarium. You talk about optimal methods and optimal results, but what is the optimal result? What if not everyone agrees on this optimal result. Perhaps what is an optimal result for you is not an optimal result for me. Thus we are back at the point where there are many different ways to keep a successful/optimal and happy tank.
Fishkeeping is not an exact science and if another fishkeeper can use the chlorine or chloramine to their advantage to treat a fish, then I say more power to them.
I never learn much when I have a closed mind, which is why I keep it open as much as I can. You should try it sometime.
My original post was just a joke anyway and hardly a butt kiss since I don't even know who Tolak is....... It wasn't meant to be as harsh as you took it.
Then do as you do. I explained why I do things as I do, and I do not believe that I m doing anything wrong.
And I really hope you don't kiss your mom with that mouth. This is a family friendly forum, can we keep it that way?
We drink chlorinate water, though the chlorine levels in tap water are often really really low, if it posed a serious risk to the fish I'm sure you would not want to drink it...
You talk about optimal methods and optimal results, but what is the optimal result? What if not everyone agrees on this optimal result. Perhaps what is an optimal result for you is not an optimal result for me. Thus we are back at the point where there are many different ways to keep a successful/optimal and happy tank.
Eh? Surely the optimal result for any caring fish keeper would be to provide the most favourable enviroment in which the fish live.I cannot think of any result which would surpass this.Can you?
The only certain way of achieving an optimal result would be by using optimal practices.This is not the same as using practices that are the best available where restrictive criteria dictate the available choices.Rather, to be described as optimal,there can be no restrictions,all choices should be available and then the most favourable selected.