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ive got one of these http://www.arkpetsonline.co.uk/nutrafin-co2-natural-plant-system-p-992.html?gclid=CIu274axxrwCFSvHtAodG1oAVg

 
Not familiar, but from what I gather it's a fairly safe bet as a first co2 system as you can't increase the amount of co2 going into the tank. I would still recommend liquid for a while, based purely on my own disaster, but if you're going ahead with it then get yourself a drop checker and a pH, GH and KH test kit. Test the parameters of your tap and tank for these and then test them in your tank again after your co2 has settled in. The danger is when you perform large water changes and your KH tap is much higher/lower than your tank. I live in an area with very hard water so high KH. Co2 reduces KH, and therfor pH. When I dumped a load of tap water in my tank the KH and pH went up very quickly and I woke up in the morning to a nasty wipe out. I'd recently cranked up my co2 for my plants, but this had lowered KH/pH too much against my tap parameters. I hope that all makes sense.
 
I went liquid for a while and did some more research and got my head around it all. I still don't reallt get it, I think a degree in chemistry might suffice, but I think I have a basic grasp. I think...
 
Back to pressurised now, but I always do water changes before my lights and co2 come on, and I test these parameters before doing it.Large swings in pH will kill your fish if KH swings with it, so crucially it's down to your tap water v's tank water hardness/alkalinity. The problem with the system you have, I think, is that the co2 is on 24/7 therefor your pH/KH will not swing at safe levels as the co2 comes on and off, so your tank parameters will remain consistently different to your tap. How much I can't say obviously, but this is why jumping in with co2 ends up in disaster on rather devistating levels.
 
Ramble over. There's so much info on it out there. Google 'pH KH relationship in aquariums' or similar, 'co2 in aquariums', ''liquid v's pressurised co2 in aquariums', 'planted tank and co2 KH pH'... Tonnes of info to melt your brain. It's awesome when it clicks and you get it though :)
 
rms said:
ive got one of these http://www.arkpetsonline.co.uk/nutrafin-co2-natural-plant-system-p-992.html?gclid=CIu274axxrwCFSvHtAodG1oAVg
 
Not familiar, but from what I gather it's a fairly safe bet as a first co2 system as you can't increase the amount of co2 going into the tank. I would still recommend liquid for a while, based purely on my own disaster, but if you're going ahead with it then get yourself a drop checker and a pH, GH and KH test kit. Test the parameters of your tap and tank for these and then test them in your tank again after your co2 has settled in. The danger is when you perform large water changes and your KH tap is much higher/lower than your tank. I live in an area with very hard water so high KH. Co2 reduces KH, and therfor pH. When I dumped a load of tap water in my tank the KH and pH went up very quickly and I woke up in the morning to a nasty wipe out. I'd recently cranked up my co2 for my plants, but this had lowered KH/pH too much against my tap parameters. I hope that all makes sense.
 
I went liquid for a while and did some more research and got my head around it all. I still don't reallt get it, I think a degree in chemistry might suffice, but I think I have a basic grasp. I think...
 
Back to pressurised now, but I always do water changes before my lights and co2 come on, and I test these parameters before doing it.Large swings in pH will kill your fish if KH swings with it, so crucially it's down to your tap water v's tank water hardness/alkalinity. The problem with the system you have, I think, is that the co2 is on 24/7 therefor your pH/KH will not swing at safe levels as the co2 comes on and off, so your tank parameters will remain consistently different to your tap. How much I can't say obviously, but this is why jumping in with co2 ends up in disaster on rather devistating levels.
 
Ramble over. There's so much info on it out there. Google 'pH KH relationship in aquariums' or similar, 'co2 in aquariums', ''liquid v's pressurised co2 in aquariums', 'planted tank and co2 KH pH'... Tonnes of info to melt your brain. It's awesome when it clicks and you get it though
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wow this planted business is getting a bit more complicated than i thought lol, so should i be ok without adding co2 to start with? and will fertilizers affect any water parameters?
 
Yes you can go without co2 and just use ferts. As long as you follow the instructions you won't do anything to harm your fish. You'd probably better off with standard t5's though. Otherwise you might have an algae problem with too much light without co2.

It does seem complicated to begin with, but it becomes clearer. Keep at it and keep posting and reading :)
Oh, and make sure you pick very easy plants that don't need co2 or high light...
 
so i spent a fair bit of time at my lfs yesterday talking about lights. after quite the discussion ive decided to go for an led light unit. he has the same unit lighting some of his tanks in the store so i could see how it looks and that plants do grow well with it. plus the cost of it and running costs are lower and it would be the easiest to fit to lid of my tank, all round winner lol :)
 
Hope everything works well for you. Best of luck :)
 

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