It sure is. As long as you don't have any females, the males will not have anyone to bother with excessive demands. The ratio is about sparing the females from too much male attention.
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Ohhhhhhhh ok cool. Thanks!
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Well I think its really good Tim has figured out they're only half fishless cycled so far. That will give more time to work it all out. Some really excellent explanations up there by C101. Interesting comment about the shrimp too, kinda makes you want to have them early because they don't get bothered by new tank stuff but on the other hand have them late because the bacterial colonies (which continue to mature all the way up through a year) will make for even fewer traces of ammonia.
I'm similar to OM47 about a tank this size doing nicely with only about 2 species. But for me it would be the 5 or so cories going in right after the fishless cycle and then 4 to 6 months (yes, months!) later, I'd put in two batches of 5 neons each. That would give you a nice shoal of 10 neons (which are such a light bioload I don't count them anywhere near an inch of fishload even when they are an inch!) and an happy group of cories clowning around that you'd already be entertained by and familiar with. Shrimp are next to no bioload so you could give them a try later too.
Of course, this is an old man speaking, so it might just not be what the daughter would want. Instead of the neons, a group of platies might be the main upper tank inhabitants and I'd take a few trips to see which seem to look more like what she wants, males or females. If the males had good coloration you might consider just those so that you would be spared the work of figuring out the new bioload that would come with fry appearing. But of course fry may also be part of the attraction of the platies...
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I'm similar to OM47 about a tank this size doing nicely with only about 2 species. But for me it would be the 5 or so cories going in right after the fishless cycle and then 4 to 6 months (yes, months!) later, I'd put in two batches of 5 neons each. That would give you a nice shoal of 10 neons (which are such a light bioload I don't count them anywhere near an inch of fishload even when they are an inch!) and an happy group of cories clowning around that you'd already be entertained by and familiar with. Shrimp are next to no bioload so you could give them a try later too.
Of course, this is an old man speaking, so it might just not be what the daughter would want. Instead of the neons, a group of platies might be the main upper tank inhabitants and I'd take a few trips to see which seem to look more like what she wants, males or females. If the males had good coloration you might consider just those so that you would be spared the work of figuring out the new bioload that would come with fry appearing. But of course fry may also be part of the attraction of the platies...
~~waterdrop~~
OK I think we are just about cycled! Nitrite is disappearing and the Nitrate is somewhere in the 60- 100 ppm.
My daughter is keen on having more than just a couple of species, but as the tank would take a while to be safe for Tetars we are going to go with:
3 female Platys
3 male Guppys
4-5 Shrimp
5-6 Corys
and have them all in at inception.
How does that sound?
Once we have done the big water change do we simply test that the Nitrate has dropped or....?
Tim
My daughter is keen on having more than just a couple of species, but as the tank would take a while to be safe for Tetars we are going to go with:
3 female Platys
3 male Guppys
4-5 Shrimp
5-6 Corys
and have them all in at inception.
How does that sound?
Once we have done the big water change do we simply test that the Nitrate has dropped or....?
Tim
No, I don't always read all of the replies (depends how much time I have) and yes, I do sometimes only reply to the initial question. I don't spend a lot of time here anymore for various reasons so I tend to pack a lot of skim reading in when I do come online.
I don't think that because 2-3 people give their input that the problem is necessarily solved and I had a slightly different suggestion for stocking. I also don't believe that you need to or even should add max stock straight away because I have a slightly different aim when fishless cycling than some people.
Having multiple similar replies also lends weight to what is being said. A thread where 2-4 people give a similar suggestion is not as influential as a thread where 8-10 people give that same suggestion.
In the case of this thread, I did read the majority of replies and got a sense of what was being said. I simply reiterated some of it and added my slant.
I don't see what the problem is?
Curiosity101
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Thanks, lol.
I'm still kinda confused though =/
If you think I've given some bad advice, let me know in a PM and I'll happily chat about it. I don't want to be causing anyone to harm their fish!
Have you done a water change?
You must always keep ammonia and nitrite at zero, with water changes if you need to.
Thanks for the heads up Assaye. We did not realise that. Readings both down to zero this am, so hopefully no harm done.
Tim
No worries. I'm sure a few hours of higher levels won't do too much damage.
The reason to keep them at zero is because they are actually very harmful to the fish. Just keep an eye on it and I'm sure it'll be fine.
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