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[Lynda B]

I am so glad that I wasn't the only confused person here..... phew.....

 

[TylerFerretLord]

B)-->QUOTE(Lynda B @ Jul 14 2007, 07:40 PM) [snapback]1691173[/snapback]
I still think your fish died from the stress of being in an uncycled tank.[/quote]

How do you explain, then, that they all died while I was out? Also: ZEOLITE. No ammonia or nitrite. At all.

 

[TylerFerretLord]

Thats my take also. There are too many contradictions and confusing statements

Can you please point out the contradictions?

If you mean the zeolite and Bio-Spira, my thought was instead of waiting for the bacteria to slowly grow, I could just add them in so it goes faster, but is still safe.

 

[starrynightxxi]

so everything is dead but for one molly? Then take out the zeolite and let the tank cycle, for crying out loud! One small fish in a 29 gallon tank will in no way cause a deadly ammonia spike. Cycling is not scary unless you're facing it with a massively overstocked tank, which you are not. Let nature do its thing without you messing with it. By adding zeolite and bio-spira, and doing 100% water changes, you are messing with things so massively, who KNOWS what could really be going on in your tank?

 

[TylerFerretLord]

so everything is dead but for one molly? Then take out the zeolite and let the tank cycle, for crying out loud! One small fish in a 29 gallon tank will in no way cause a deadly ammonia spike. Cycling is not scary unless you're facing it with a massively overstocked tank, which you are not. Let nature do its thing without you messing with it. By adding zeolite and bio-spira, and doing 100% water changes, you are messing with things so massively, who KNOWS what could really be going on in your tank?

I'm cycling a filter in a ten gallon for my tank. I don't want to do anything that may hurt them.

 

[n3ont3tra]

so everything is dead but for one molly? Then take out the zeolite and let the tank cycle, for crying out loud! One small fish in a 29 gallon tank will in no way cause a deadly ammonia spike. Cycling is not scary unless you're facing it with a massively overstocked tank, which you are not. Let nature do its thing without you messing with it. By adding zeolite and bio-spira, and doing 100% water changes, you are messing with things so massively, who KNOWS what could really be going on in your tank?

I'm cycling a filter in a ten gallon for my tank. I don't want to do anything that may hurt them.

Maybe you should've thought about that before you added the fish, and just done a fishless cycle in the tank.

As to why the fish died... hmmm... the filters were working, right? Check the temperature with a different thermometer.

Also, are those water parameters from /after/ the water change? And check your test kits for an expiration date.

 

[TylerFerretLord]

so everything is dead but for one molly? Then take out the zeolite and let the tank cycle, for crying out loud! One small fish in a 29 gallon tank will in no way cause a deadly ammonia spike. Cycling is not scary unless you're facing it with a massively overstocked tank, which you are not. Let nature do its thing without you messing with it. By adding zeolite and bio-spira, and doing 100% water changes, you are messing with things so massively, who KNOWS what could really be going on in your tank?

I'm cycling a filter in a ten gallon for my tank. I don't want to do anything that may hurt them.

Maybe you should've thought about that before you added the fish, and just done a fishless cycle in the tank.

As to why the fish died... hmmm... the filters were working, right? Check the temperature with a different thermometer.

Also, are those water parameters from /after/ the water change? And check your test kits for an expiration date.

I didn't know about cycling, luckily I had put in zeolite from the start.

I have three filters, I doubt that they all don't work, and they do. Good flow from each.

They were from before. Kits are fine, thanks for asking, hadn't thought of that.

 

[n3ont3tra]

Okay.... then... umm... I have no idea. Maybe something got on the food you fed them and the mollie and shrimp didn't eat any of it....?

 

[TylerFerretLord]

I had to bring the gourami back, they were beating him up.

Down to just mollies and a shrimp.

 

[Lynda B]

I didn't know anything about fishless cycling when I started up my tank. I started without weird chemicals, had 3 serpae tetras and 2 red eye tetras, went through cycling beautifully (took about 4 weeks). I still have those first fish, as well as the fish I've slowly added to my tank since then.

I don't know why you insist on making this so hard, when it's really not. And, at the expense of your fish, too.

Get rid of the funky chemicals, check your water params, change your water regularly and just cycle the damn tank already.....

 

[fishlette]

You don't, zeolite is just a mineral that absorbs ammonia. It slows down the cycle severly. I used it as an emegency response to prevent an ammonia spike when I first started my tank. No ammonia=no nitrite=no nitrate.

The chemical I was talking about, Bio-Spira, contains the bacteria that you build up when you cycle, thus speeding the cycle up.
[/quote]

this is being made way to hard. chemicals only turn a natural process into an unnatural one in my opinion.

considering you have fish in your tank and you are worried about them dealing with ammonia spikes etc, wouldnt you be better off doing it naturally and doing a lot of water changes??? adding chemicals etc IMO is unecessary and a waste of money.

sorry if this has already been said but i didnt read all the posts before replying. would forget what i wanted to say otherwise

 

[Lynda B]

apparently, it can't be said enough...... we're just not getting our point across....

 

[-germ-]

I agree, but must say that i view SeaChem prime as being exempt from this (SeaChem prime.... again! I'll never give up).
Many fish-keepers use this for a dechlorinator as well as the vast majority of LFS that i visit, not veryone uses it to aid cycles or for its detoxifying properties, as i have mentioned many a time this may slow your cycle, but with Prime, alot of water changes (as lyndab mentioned) and common sense you are unlikely to fail....
SeaChem Prime For Life! (damn... no gangsta smilies)

 

[Lynda B]

We're Prime addicts, as well, in our home.....

 

[-germ-]

Have you not tasted it yet! Its like the nectar of the gods!






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