Back to black

[Barry Tetra]

Firstly black does not mean dirty. The "black" is tannin in the water and typically occurs in forests where the water passes over tree roots and branches. Very often, as in South America and Asia this water is incredibly clean and pure. This is why many of these fish are intolerant of or sensitive to poor water quality. The tannin has zero affect on water quality, although as the water is so pure it may contribute to making the water more acidic.

Since this usually happens in forests it means the fish are not used to bright light. This is due to a combination of the tannin in the water, floating plants and the tree canopies shading the water. That is why I am happy to let my floating plants grow so thick, as that creates a natural environment for my forest fish. In this tank the right half is completely covered over, and it is really quite dark in there - even with the lights on.

Thanks for the informations Seangee. I thought blackwater means saltwater + freshwater.

 

[Essjay]

That's brackish water. Similar sounding word.

 

[seangee]

And last but not least. The vals have finally reached the surface and started back down. They do grow very slowly in this tank because they prefer hard water. I suspect the one growing through the middle of the crypt came in as a hitch-hiker, but I may be wrong. Colour is not quite right as you don't get the full blackwater effect - although you can see it on the right. I used a graduated ND filter as the lighting between the left and right sides really is very different (6 full stops).

 

[seangee]

Up close and personal. I've had this guy since 2004 and gave away his 3 siblings when I downsized the tank in 2016

 

[AquaBarb]

Up close and personal. I've had this guy since 2004 and gave away his 3 siblings when I downsized the tank in 2016
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His a beast!!
How come you downsized?

 

[AquaBarb]

And last but not least. The vals have finally reached the surface and started back down. They do grow very slowly in this tank because they prefer hard water. I suspect the one growing through the middle of the crypt came in as a hitch-hiker, but I may be wrong. Colour is not quite right as you don't get the full blackwater effect - although you can see it on the right. I used a graduated ND filter as the lighting between the left and right sides really is very different (6 full stops).

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Cardinals look great in this tank. Colours really pop

It looks alot lighter than normal. Have you thinned out your frogbit?

 

[seangee]

His a beast!!
How come you downsized?

I had a 450l corner tank. Great idea but quite impractical. It was too heavy to move to redecorate and the stand was rotting. That year I converted the breakfast room (where the tank was) into a dining room and had the flooring done througout the downstairs. Now I have tanks that I can move away from the wall by myself. This tank is 180l and I love it. But I do like the smaller tanks too.

I do occasionally think about a big tank but have managed to restrain myself do date

 

[seangee]

Cardinals look great in this tank. Colours really pop

It looks alot lighter than normal. Have you thinned out your frogbit?

Nope - I put a really dark grey filter in front of half of the camera lens so I could have the correct exposure for the whole tank to look the same (more or less) brightness. The difference between the 2 sides is too big to try to fix in photoshop.

 

[vanalisa]

Have been considering switching the substrate in the 55G community tank to black for some time (ok years), but have always balked at the effort involved. I already have "black" sand in my nano and recently used the leftover to setup this tank. I am really pleased with the look but the 2 tanks with dark substrate are in my home office where nobody gets to see them and the community tank is on display in the living room.

I will start over the weekend. Here is the before picView attachment 94008

I have recently stopped adding tannins to the tank. That goes in cycles, some months I do and some months I don't . I have also let the frogbit go pretty wild and am loving the look. The fish seem to be enjoying the environment but it does mean that I am not getting enough flow on the surface to clear the oily deposits or food that gets caught up in the roots, so I will be replacing the canister with a HOB. I have been really impressed with the Seachem Tidal I used in the other tank so have bought the bigger version. It also suits my general laziness when it comes to cleaning. Yes I know cleaning a canister is not hard but rinsing sponges is much easier and I only plan to have sponge in it. I also replaced the powerhead I removed with a stronger unit. It only runs 20 minutes every 4 hours during the light period.

My only maintenance at present is a weekly 75% water change and plant thinning. I do the canister quarterly (it has a sponge pre-filter and I rinse the sponges with every w/c). I am going to lose the pre-filter and simply rinse the HOB sponges weekly.

Here is the frogbit from above
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Excuse me while I wipe frogbit drool off my chin...

 

[AquaBarb]

They spawn quite regularly but I have never had survivors. There are over 30 corys and 45 tetras in the tank so I'm not going to hold my breath.

What kind of corys you got Sean? Saw you mentioned sterbi's before but didnt realise you had over 30

 

[seangee]

What kind of corys you got Sean? Saw you mentioned sterbi's before but didnt realise you had over 30

c.sterbai and c.paleatus (pepper cory).

 

[AquaBarb]

I was thinking of getting some peppers.

Whats the activity like with both?

My Panda's and Albino's are totally different

 

[seangee]

Peppers are all over the tank and often foraging upside down in the roots. Someone on SF described them as "thick as a bag of nails" and they're not wrong, they will swim into your hand and catching them is no problem. Just put the net into the water and they will swim into it to see what is going on. Downside is they know no fear and don't recognise aggression which could lead to problems if you did have agressive fish. I always describe them as the labradors of the aquarium, always wagging their tails and just want to be friends with everyone.

Sterbais are more nocturnal and faster moving. They are a lot more skittish and catching them is quite difficult. Otherwise the behaviour is similar(ish) and they do often swim together.

Some time ago my aging population got down to 1 sterbai and 6 peppers. I ordered 15 sterbai, thinking I'd stick with them. When they arrived the bag was full of peppers. Store gave me a refund but did not want them back, so I ordered 10 sterbai a couple of weeks later.

 

[Retired Viking]

Peppers are all over the tank and often foraging upside down in the roots. Someone on SF described them as "thick as a bag of nails" and they're not wrong, they will swim into your hand and catching them is no problem. Just put the net into the water and they will swim into it to see what is going on. Downside is they know no fear and don't recognise aggression which could lead to problems if you did have agressive fish. I always describe them as the labradors of the aquarium, always wagging their tails and just want to be friends with everyone.

Sterbais are more nocturnal and faster moving. They are a lot more skittish and catching them is quite difficult. Otherwise the behaviour is similar(ish) and they do often swim together.

Some time ago my aging population got down to 1 sterbai and 6 peppers. I ordered 15 sterbai, thinking I'd stick with them. When they arrived the bag was full of peppers. Store gave me a refund but did not want them back, so I ordered 10 sterbai a couple of weeks later.

Lucky you, are the peppers calmer than albino cory?

 

[AquaBarb]

Peppers are all over the tank and often foraging upside down in the roots. Someone on SF described them as "thick as a bag of nails" and they're not wrong, they will swim into your hand and catching them is no problem. Just put the net into the water and they will swim into it to see what is going on. Downside is they know no fear and don't recognise aggression which could lead to problems if you did have agressive fish. I always describe them as the labradors of the aquarium, always wagging their tails and just want to be friends with everyone.

Sterbais are more nocturnal and faster moving. They are a lot more skittish and catching them is quite difficult. Otherwise the behaviour is similar(ish) and they do often swim together.

Some time ago my aging population got down to 1 sterbai and 6 peppers. I ordered 15 sterbai, thinking I'd stick with them. When they arrived the bag was full of peppers. Store gave me a refund but did not want them back, so I ordered 10 sterbai a couple of weeks later.

Thanks for that. I do need a cory what will get stuck in when it comes to feeding. My barbs arent aggressive but will go for waffles, pellets etc. Peppers might be a good fit.

Love the look of the sterbis but being skittish might not be best in this tank.

Did think of transferring my Pandas across and upping the group to 12-15 but they would just sit there and watch the barbs eat their food lol