Wood tips, pointers, and suggestions

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So, "aquarium safe" wood has become quite expensive, with only my local pet shop selling 'rosewood pieces' at a decent price compared to dedicated aquarium stores that sell specific manzanita, Bog, Mopani, etc. I have been thinking about finding some wood in that thing we call the outside. I have easy access to a Silver Birch and a Conifer. I would suspect that a Conifer is a no-go to be used in an aquarium as it gives off a smell, but would a Silver Birch be ok? I assume I would have to de-bark the branches?

There are other tree species around my area. Oak, Ash, Horse Chestnut, Sycamore and a few others I don't know the name of.
Would any of these be compatible in an aquarium setting?

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The deciduous trees (oak, birch) should be fine. Avoid conifers because they are the resinous trees Back in the fold mentioned.

You don't need to remove bark. As long as there's no harmful chemicals on the wood or bark, then it's fine. Let the wood dry out completely and then soak it. Once it has sunk, you can add it to the aquarium.
 
I have never bought wood for tanks, since I'm a cheapskate. We're an international group so there isn't always crossover on the species we can get, but for the UK and Canada it isn't wildly different.
All my wood and rocks come from where wood and rocks come from. I skip having someone else pick them up and ship them to stores.
I like to use oak and maple if I can. Elm also works (my neighbour has one of these now rare once common trees that offers tank decor after every gale). If I'm digging up shrubs or bushes, I have a look at the roots - often tree roots are very hard and last ages in tanks.
The best trees don't often offer the shapes we like though. I've learned to decorate without the twisty bits you find in imported tropical woods.

I'm surrounded by uncountable numbers of pines, and the temptation to try some of the interesting shapes I see is real. Resins are dangerous to a tank though. I have used pine that was bleached and dry from years off the living tree, but that's a rare find and has to be examined closely. Softwood, even if safe, decays in a tank. It shrinks in very little time. So it's not the best choice even if safe.

For all woods, I remove the bark. There is more likelihood of mould or fungus under when a tree's dead. It might be different for @Colin_T in Australia, as fallen branches there won't go through a cycle of freezing and thawing.

I have used river driftwood, presunk and picked up as summer progresses and water levels drop. I just hose it off after I throw it in the kayak. I don't share the view that natural things are always a danger. Someone picked up that wood you pay for and hosed it before they threw it in a truck for the airport. Fish will clean it up, as long as you haven't foolishly taken it from a polluted river. Again, your environment matters. I'm surrounded by streams and forests that have been wrecked and modified by human activity, but not rendered toxic. Oaks were once common here, but the money was in softwood and they got in the way. They survive in the places where the logging companies don't spray for spruce budworm, and once you find those awkward spaces, you start looking. Some of the woods I've seen in the UK and the rest of Europe look like they've been planted by gardeners.

I prefer dry pieces, but they can languish in a bucket or bin with large water changes every few weeks for a year before they sink. Hardwood is slow to rot, but it's also slow to sink.
 
All my wood and rocks come from where wood and rocks come from.
That's why we keep Gary around. He's the brains of this outfit.

Seriously, though, your point about nature is well-taken. Some people say they'd never collect driftwood from a river, and I always wonder where they think the wood in the store came from. :lol: When I collect wood from the local creek overflow channel (a never-ending source for me), I look for pieces that are weathered and bleached enough to have lost all their bark. I usually scrub them nice and clean and lay them out in the sun several days to remove or kill any pathogens that might be on them.

I've used cottonwood and ash wood that I picked up off the ground. I try to find older pieces with the bark off.

There are a few exceptions to the no conifer rule. I would guess that most of the wood from the creek is lodgepole pine, but by the time it's been bashing around in the rocks long enough to have all the bark polished off, I figure all the resins that can leach have leached. Freshly broken pieces don't even smell like pine anymore.

The other exception I make is juniper wood. Out in the high deserts around here there are dead juniper branches that have probably stood where they are for a hundred years. They tend to come in interesting, picturesque shapes, and evey though they sometimes still have a slight smell of cedar deep in the wood, they don't seem to make the fish uncomfortable. Bonus to juniper wood: It never rots.
 
as long as you haven't foolishly taken it from a polluted river. Again, your environment matters. I'm surrounded by streams and forests that have been wrecked and modified by human activity, but not rendered toxic.
Oh boy.. The local canal and river, less than half a mile away from my house, is rated in the top 10 most polluted waterways in the northwest. I've been fishing 3 times so far, only to have no bites, a heron with fishing line wrapped around its leg + two dead floating fish.

I've just had a look at the Silver Birch. There are a few pieces that could work, but the problem is they're about 9-10ft up, and I don't trust myself on a ladder :lol:. I do have a number of Ash trees that have seeded from a giant one a few houses down. They are small, however..
Perhaps I need to go on a foraging trip.
 
There are a few exceptions to the no conifer rule. I would guess that most of the wood from the creek is lodgepole pine, but by the time it's been bashing around in the rocks long enough to have all the bark polished off, I figure all the resins that can leach have leached. Freshly broken pieces don't even smell like pine anymore.
I too only collect wood for my aquarium locally. I will use pretty much any wood I can find from hardwoods, maple, oak, arbutus, but I also have used a lot of douglas fir, hemlock, and cedar. For me the wood has to be aged. Creeks and rivers can be a good place to find wood but the easiest places I have found is in the shore of reservoirs where the water level is controlled. In these locations the wood is often wetted then dried then wetted again over the years, which leaches out just about any aromatics that might have an effect on the fish.
 
Picked up a trio of what I suspect are oak branches. A local garden centre has a wall of old oak trees lining the entrance. The ground had more acorns than grass. I don't suspect any use of chemicals around the area, but I will leave the branches outside and give them a deep clean in the coming days.
 
Quick question on debarking. I have a wire brush I was thinking of using. Should I soak the branches so the bark goes softer, or just leave it? I also have a detail sander and a rasp as backup.
 
Quick question on debarking. I have a wire brush I was thinking of using. Should I soak the branches so the bark goes softer, or just leave it? I also have a detail sander and a rasp as backup.
Yes, I would probably soak the branches for a day or two to soften up the bark. Wire brushes are good, as are rasps. Not sure how useful a detail sander would be; you can let us know how that goes. I also find that a flat-head screw driver is indispensable for digging bark out of little nooks and bends.
 
Mostly oak and birch around here.
You may want to take a walk today - I suspect there will be a good bit lying around :whistle:
 
Well, I was going to attempt starting debarking today. This storm has changed my plans..
 
Question. I’m going to waterlog these branches rather than weigh down like I normally do. I’m thinking of putting them in a closed and sealed bucket, with lid and leaving them for a few weeks. Is this likely to cause any bacteria or fungal outbreaks/issues ? Or is having an open top bucket exposed to the elements a better idea?
 

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