Which Cycle?

[mystus]

Hi all,

About 4 years ago I started my first aquarium a 25 gallon one. I did the 48 hour water cycle. Then added fish (as advised by me not knowing and lfs helpers ) Now I am going to get another tank and was wondering how long to cycle it and what type of cycle to use I can't do the one were I add ammonia as i don't have ammonia.

Any and all help is appreciated

 

[jmkgreen]

Other sources of ammonia include rotting plant materials and meats. In my first tank I hung a stocking full of prawns in there. Keep in mind that the release of ammonia will be uncontrolled and you'll need to clean the mess up afterwards.

 

[mystus]

Other sources of ammonia include rotting plant materials and meats. In my first tank I hung a stocking full of prawns in there. Keep in mind that the release of ammonia will be uncontrolled and you'll need to clean the mess up afterwards.

Thanks but I'd rather stay away from creating my own ammonia if it's possible

 

[llamalord305]

Youre gonna have to get some, then! You can find it under cleaning products at supermarkets. Check this thread out.
http/www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=38840

 

[mystus]

Youre gonna have to get some, then! You can find it under cleaning products at supermarkets. Check this thread out.
[URL="http/www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=38840"]http/www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=38840[/URL]

So what will the ammonia do? Will it create helpful bacteria? Any how long should i put it in? Is that what the fish less cycle is for?

 

[llamalord305]

In short, yes. The ammonia will simulate fish dropping and urine, and will get bacteria to grow. This bacteria turns the ammonia into nitrites. Another bacteria will turn nitrites in nitrates. Ammonia and nitrite are bad for fish, while nitrates are bad in high levels. Nitrate levels can be kept down by getting plants (They consume it) and by doing water changes. Mainly the latter. Read up here.

http/www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=277264

Hope I helped!

 

[mystus]

In short, yes. The ammonia will simulate fish dropping and urine, and will get bacteria to grow. This bacteria turns the ammonia into nitrites. Another bacteria will turn nitrites in nitrates. Ammonia and nitrite are bad for fish, while nitrates are bad in high levels. Nitrate levels can be kept down by getting plants (They consume it) and by doing water changes. Mainly the latter. Read up here.

[URL="http/www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=277264"]http/www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=277264[/URL]

Hope I helped!

Yes very much but about how long would it take to be ready for fish? and could I add plants already or wait for the nitrAte to build up?

 

[Truck]

In short, yes. The ammonia will simulate fish dropping and urine, and will get bacteria to grow. This bacteria turns the ammonia into nitrites. Another bacteria will turn nitrites in nitrates. Ammonia and nitrite are bad for fish, while nitrates are bad in high levels. Nitrate levels can be kept down by getting plants (They consume it) and by doing water changes. Mainly the latter. Read up here.

<a href="http/www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=277264" target="_blank">http/www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=277264</a>

Hope I helped!

Yes very much but about how long would it take to be ready for fish? and could I add plants already or wait for the nitrAte to build up?

4weeks+ some have had a 3 months cycle.

you can add plants straight away but over on the green side we normally fish in cycle our tanks.

 

[mystus]

In short, yes. The ammonia will simulate fish dropping and urine, and will get bacteria to grow. This bacteria turns the ammonia into nitrites. Another bacteria will turn nitrites in nitrates. Ammonia and nitrite are bad for fish, while nitrates are bad in high levels. Nitrate levels can be kept down by getting plants (They consume it) and by doing water changes. Mainly the latter. Read up here.

<a href="http/www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=277264" target="_blank">http/www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=277264</a>

Hope I helped!

Yes very much but about how long would it take to be ready for fish? and could I add plants already or wait for the nitrAte to build up?

4weeks+ some have had a 3 months cycle.

you can add plants straight away but over on the green side we normally fish in cycle our tanks.

You put the fish in straight away and hope they live? If I out the filter pad in my already running tank will that completely make the bacteria grow or will i have to leave it in there for awhile then put it in the filter in the other tank and then let it run for a little?

 

[llamalord305]

Yeah, this is often used to "jump start" a cycle. Just get some filter media from the established tank, and use it in the cycling tank. This will make the process faster as the bacteria will simply have to grow into other media instead of starting anew. Just be sure to replace the media in the old tank!

 

[mystus]

Yeah, this is often used to "jump start" a cycle. Just get some filter media from the established tank, and use it in the cycling tank. This will make the process faster as the bacteria will simply have to grow into other media instead of starting anew. Just be sure to replace the media in the old tank!

Alright I read that somewhere but didn't know if it was alright. I kinda wanna try the fishless cycle idk why though lol

 

[Truck]

you still need to keep an eye on your water stats when doing a fish in cycle as ammonia or nitrite might spike. in which case a large (80%) water chaange is needed

 

[mystus]

you still need to keep an eye on your water stats when doing a fish in cycle as ammonia or nitrite might spike. in which case a large (80%) water chaange is needed

OK I'll keep that in mind. Thanks for answering all my questions This has really helped me

 

[waterdrop]

you still need to keep an eye on your water stats when doing a fish in cycle as ammonia or nitrite might spike. in which case a large (80%) water chaange is needed

OK I'll keep that in mind. Thanks for answering all my questions This has really helped me

Have you decided to do a fishless cycle via household ammonia then?

~~waterdrop~~

 

[mystus]

you still need to keep an eye on your water stats when doing a fish in cycle as ammonia or nitrite might spike. in which case a large (80%) water chaange is needed

OK I'll keep that in mind. Thanks for answering all my questions This has really helped me

Have you decided to do a fishless cycle via household ammonia then?

~~waterdrop~~

Yup I don't wanna spend money on fish and have them most likely die.