Tilted/unlevel Tank Tolerance Issues

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alexge

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Let me start by saying that I am by no means an expert in aquaria, engineering, physics or hydrostatics.
 
Recently (July 2015) I set up a new tank, an ADA 75P, which is 75cm length, 45cm width and 45cm depth
(or 2 & 1/2 foot long, 1 & 1/2 foot depth and 1 & 1/2 foot height).
It can take up to 151.875 litres or 33.4 US gallons, thus the water weighs 152 Kgs.
 
I have had it running since July, but only just recently I noticed that it is slightly tilted.
 
Me worrying is probably unrealistic and I am just being paranoid.
I tend to be paranoid about my tank, because of all the horror stories I've read online.
In order to avoid perpetuating the myths about unleveled tanks, I've done some proper calculations, in order to demonstrate my train of thoughts.
 
I've calculated the tilt, by finding the height from the water surface to the glass edges in all four corners.
The amounts are minuscule:
  • From rear left back corner to front left corner the difference is 2mm ( 0.008 of an inch)
  • From left front corner to right front corner the difference is 2 mm (0.008 of an inch)
  • From rear left back corner to rear right corner the difference is 2mm
  • From rear right back corner to front right cornet the difference is 2mm
Those numbers may be subject to a small error of +/- 0.5mm ~ 1 mm.
 
I worked out the angular change in degrees:
  • 0.25465 degrees: rear left back to front left corner
  • 0.15279 degrees: front left to front right corner
  • 0.25465 degrees: rear right back to front right corner
  • 0.15279 degrees: rear left to rear right corner
And the diagonal: 87.5cm from rear left corner to front right corner
  • 0.26192 degrees tilt
The pressure exerted at the bottom of the tank, is 1.07935 Kgf/cm2 (Kilogram force per square cm).
We need the average Kgf/cm2 in order to calculate the force for the entire side pangels, thus 1.02232 Kgf/cm2 halfway from the top to the bottom of the tank.
 
My side glass panels are 45cm * 45cm = 2025 cm2, thus I get 2070 Kgf per side panel,
and my front and rear panels are 75cm * 45cm = 3375cm2, thus I get  3450Kgf per front/rear panel.
 
All panels are 8mm thick, optiwhite (low iron glass) with the only exception of the bottom panel which has higher iron (green tint).
 
I did those calculations, to show just how strong those glass sides are supposed to be, in order to handle the forces exerted on them by the water.
 
However, because I am paranoid, I figured out the way to calculate extra force:
by finding the Sine of the angle,  as it is proportional to the pressure exerted by the water
Thus, in my case:
  • Sine( 0.25465 degrees ) = 0.00444447 * 2070 Kgf = 15.33 Kgf increase (0.74%)
  • Sine( 0.15279 degrees ) = 0.00266669 * 3450 Kgf = 9.2 Kgf increase (0.27%)
  • Sine( 0.26192 degrees ) = 0.00457135 * 2070 + 3450 Kgf =  25.2 Kgf increase (0.46%)
I don't know if those calculations are correct !
(I just read a lot of online resources to figure this out)
 
The numbers are also a bit inflated: out of 152 litres, I will probably stop at 140 litres, thus the actual force is probably a bit smaller.
Also the angles may be smaller, since I cannot accurately measure (using a measuring tape) from water surface, that is quite hard to do.
 
What those calculations show, is that even minute changes have a big effect, 15 kgf increase on the side panels due to tilt,
9.2 Kgf increase on front panel due to tilt, and 25 Kgf increase on front panel and right side panel due to the front right corner being lower than all other corners.
 
However, in the grand scheme of things, those silicone seams are made to withstand at least 3450 Kgf at their lowest level (or else they would break when you overfill the tank).
Will a 0.27%, 0.46% or 0.74% increase in the force due to tilt have such a significant effect?
 
I am guessing that I have no reason to worry, but after googling "aquarium tilted" or "fish tank tilted" I run into a plethora of guides and posts,
ranging from the downright fanatics arguing that they need to be perfectly level or the tank/seams will break,
or reading articles from "experienced aquarists" who have kept all their tanks unleveled and never had any issues.
Some argue that anything smaller than 1/4 of an inch is no reason to worry,
whereas others mention that aquarium quality, braces or seam silicone, previous usage, all affect aquarium safety and longevity.
 
So, from your experience, assuming you've actually given this any thought or attention, how level have you kept your tanks?
Obviously tank capacity is probably the crucial factor here, but I'd like to know if I should be emptying my tank and buying shims,
or if this is one of those urban myths propagated through online forums.
 
PS: If you are an engineer or are experienced with hydrostatics and such calculations, I'd be more than happy to be given some input on the above calculations
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I wouldn't expect 2mm to be any concern. Your glass is nice and thick.
 
Others may be able to add input, but if it were me, I wouldn't be worried.

When you say "new tank" do you mean it's brand new, or is it a second hand tank that is new to you? If it is brand new, I would say you shouldn't have any cause for concern.
 
2mm is jenerally not visible to most people and normally I wouldn't be concerned. However,  Have you checked your floor?  Maybe there is nothing wrong with the tank and it's stand.   However if the floor shifted you might notice that.  Now a non level floor might not be a big deal.  But it could indicate a structural issue with your home that may now be visible due to the weight of the tank.  Structural issues need to be investigated and corrected promptly.
 
Hi, yes sorry I forgot to mention it is not a new tank, but a second hand one.
The previous owner had it stored in a shed, barely used it, he bought it a couple of years ago from a reputable online retailer.
 
Yes its an issue with the floor.
I used to have my wardrobe there, and it was also leaning forward a tiny bit.
The 2mm angle was not visible until I filled it up last night to the point of overflowing.
That's when I realised that it wasn't level.
I thought it was the stand or perhaps the styrofoam beneath the tank.
 
I'm not really worried, I think those tanks are made to take a lot more force than that of the water,
but still, reading so many horror stories online made me wonder.
 

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