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  1. Manny

    Manny New Member

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    hey ya!
    I’ll try to keep this short an brief
    My girls kid unplug filter and pump
    By “accident “ and rep lugged it back several hours later.
    Month goes by at least, I’ve changed water
    Clean filter out at least twice “was told that it was wrong”
    Change water again. Tank still cloudy.
    Then poof two koi’s one goldfish all huge die. Floating and sitting at the bottom of tank. I remove them and I think I changed the water about 20% and the tank is 80%clear.
    Now the two Plecos that I have are still alive. Water was tested. Came back green. Was told with the Plecos I’ve named darksied and thanos have built up an immune to the water. Or they have a 50/50 chance right now. I’ve also noticed that they have been jumping to the top and back down more so the past few days. I’m guessing for air. What do I do!?!
     
  2. PheonixKingZ

    PheonixKingZ Fish Herder
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    Hello and welcome to the forum! :hi:

    Firstly, you shouldn't need to clean your filter at all, as it will lose your bacterial cycle. :)

    Secondly, what are your exact water parameters? And may I please see a picture of the tank? :)
     
  3. Manny

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    Hey
    It’s a 40-45 gallon.
    I was told I didn’t need to do that
    And secondly
    How do I send a pic lol
     
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    Hi and welcome to the forum :)

    Filters should be cleaned at least once a month and every 2 weeks is better. However, if the filter is less than 6 weeks old, do not clean it unless the flow rate is reduced.

    If you have a power filter, you wash the filter media/ materials in a bucket of tank water and when they are clean, put them in the tank. Then wash the filter case and impellor (magnet with plastic blades) under tap water. When it's clean, put the filter media back in the filter, fill the filter up and get it running again.

    If you have a filter that says you need to replace filter pads every couple of weeks, you can put some sponges in the filter and clean them as described above. I use AquaClear sponges but there are plenty of other brands. Just use a pair of scissors to cut them to fit.

    You can get round/ cylindrical sponges for some brands of internal power filter. These sponges have a hole through the centre of them and they fit over the intake strainer of most external power filters. They act as a prefilter and reduce the gink getting into the motor, and they hold beneficial filter bacteria.

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    You should do a 75% water change and gravel clean the substrate every day for a week, and then once a week after that. Make sure any new water is free of chlorine/ chloramine before it is added to the tank.

    You do water changes for 2 main reasons.
    1) to reduce nutrients like ammonia, nitrite & nitrate.
    2) to dilute disease organisms in the water.

    Fish live in a soup of microscopic organisms including bacteria, fungus, viruses, protozoans, worms, flukes and various other things that make your skin crawl. Doing a big water change and gravel cleaning the substrate on a regular basis will dilute these organisms and reduce their numbers in the water, thus making it a safer and healthier environment for the fish.

    If you do a 25% water change each week you leave behind 75% of the bad stuff in the water.
    If you do a 50% water change each week you leave behind 50% of the bad stuff in the water.
    If you do a 75% water change each week you leave behind 25% of the bad stuff in the water.

    Imagine living in your house with no windows, doors, toilet, bathroom or anything. You eat and poop in the environment and have no clean air. Eventually you end up living in your own filth, which would probably be made worse by you throwing up due to the smell. You would get sick very quickly and probably die unless someone came to clean up regularly and open the place up to let in fresh air.

    Fish live in their own waste. Their tank and filter is full of fish poop. The water they breath is filtered through fish poop. Cleaning filters, gravel and doing big regular water changes, removes a lot of this poop and makes the environment cleaner and healthier for the fish.

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    Green Cloudy water is caused by single celled plants called algae. They grow from excess light or excess nutrients, sometimes both. Adding live plants can help, as can reducing the lighting period and doing big daily water changes.

    Milky Cloudy water is caused by a bacterial bloom, which is normally caused by uneaten food rotting in the tank, or a filter that is not working properly.

    Cleaning the filter (as described above) and doing big daily water changes for a week will usually fix both of these issues.

    Don't add any new fish for a month so the tank has a chance to settle down.
     
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    The advice above is good so I won't add to it.
    Please don't put anymore goldfish or koi into this tank. It really is nowhere big enough. Even tiny ones end up huge and will go the same way.
     
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    Wow. A lot to read in the morning. Grateful

    I got the water tested yesterday and it turned green within a few mins.
    Was told. My plecos have a 50/50 chance
    No more changes, let it be an hope for the best. I have two plecos and a cat fish Pleco somewhat baby
    Still eating and swimming. But every now and then I see either Darkside or Thanos (they have names) or call them the shadows lol
    Jump up the top and go back down.
    Don’t want them to die. Trying to freak out.
    All this happened because of my girls daughter was mad at me and “accidentally “ unplugged the filter/pump (canister) had to have been in plugged for a few hours that it messed up the motor and it wasn’t working anymore


     
  8. Manny

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    Thank you. ☺️
    Btw. The tank is 40-45 gallons
    Water somewhat clean looking posting a pic is hard due to the size of the pic
     
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    Welcome and glad you’re here. Your “girls” daughter may have brought the issue to a head but you were way overstocked with fish not compatible with that size tank. I think your bioload is more likely what caused your water issues and the death of your fish. Please do research before anymore stocking of any kind. The plecos alone are enough for that tank.
     
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    . You do need to clean your filter media every couple of weeks but be sure to use tank water to do so.
     
  11. Manny

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    That’s what I was told.
    The thing is. I’ve had all the fish at the same time...not one problem till she did that. Wasn’t the only time she messed with tank.
    U may be right. I’m a bigger nerd more so now reading to about 3am now lol
    I’m Picking up a bigger tank fri. Not doing anything with it for a long while.
    I’ll take all advice given. It is appreciated

     
  12. PheonixKingZ

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    Sorry, you don’t need to completely take apart the filter, and scrub everything, thanks for clearing that up @Deanause. :)
     
  13. Manny

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    Lol whew
    Np
     

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