New Filter Help Again...

[lilacamy931]

Well as you may or may not know, my cf1000 decided to spring a leak and so decided to get another filter (though couldnt quite afford the new prices). As it turned out the leak is incredibly slow but dont want to take chances, though will store it for now to use later. So I ended up with a XP3 and also a Eheim 2213 both second hand. I need help setting up to make sure I have smooth transition! So here they are:

XP3 going on 100g.
The xp3 I think I have mostly covered, the tubes seem to fit snug onto the sockets without aid of any plugs. I can fit the adaptors and hopefully tubing from the cf1000 onto this one (fingers crossed). With the internals as this pic:

There are gaps at the sides not snug fit, hope this is normal. each of the compartments have rings and sponge, should I transfer over rings and sponge from the cf1000 to seed properly into each of the containers and can sponge be put down the sides or not recommended?

Quite short tubing thinking replacing if current fits how many size tubings are there? Do they need sockets?

Eheim to go on 120 litre, this appears to be full of sand so giving this and the other a good clean before anything else.
Inside is this which drags out a tube, can this be filled with whatever, it looks like bioballs in there but havent managed to get inside yet

Here is the outlet tubes which look good working order with spray bar

Here is the inlet tube - anyone guide me to the inlet parts? Anything I can adapt or where can go for parts?

Lastly the tubes have these double attachments which somehow must fit onto the plumbing, how?! Stupid as I am, really cant figure out as to why there are two parts attached together or how to get them to fix on.

Sorry for the doltiness. I want to get the xp3 up so no worries about flooding and the eheim up to eliminate the internal filter that does take up a lot of room in the triangular tank..

 

[lilacamy931]

Some good news!

XP3 is up and running after much battling, only question on this one is should the water go right to the top of the canister? And that I didnt have any tube clamps so the tubes are direct onto the outputs is this ok?

With the eheim, I have cleaned it up now, only real question I think for this one is, on the 6th pic down with the intake and black piping, the intake is the wrong way round? If the cradle attaches to the piping, the length of green goes in the tank? I know the strainer is missing, for a short while could I make do without it (as the fish considering just wouldnt fit up the intake is small).

Last major issue on the eheim is with the valves and attaching to canister, does it go canister output, small amount tubing, valves, tubing into tank and attachments? I ask as the only external experience have is the cf1000 which had valves attach onto canister direct and now xp3 that the tubes go onto the canister outputs direct.

 

[Monty-2010]

I've got an xp3, the water should go to the top, sounds like you've got a bit of air in it give it a little shake or try plugging it in and out a few times. just check the shut off valve is all the way up

Just to be on the safe side it'd be good to have clamps, try using hose clips if you avn't got any clamps

 

[arobinson1984]

Hi lilacamy,

I have the 2217 classic so should be able to help a little.

It does look like the intake is just connected the wrong way round with the intake strainer missing

What sort of outlet does it have? just a pipe? are you going to put a spraybar on it?

You should have 2 sets of taps (4 in total) 1 set fits anywhere in the middle of the intake pipe and one in the middle of the outlet pipe. They just make maintenance easier as you can turn the taps off then if you twist the collar in the middle of the 2 taps (part marked on your pic below) they come apart. This keeps the water in the pipes meaning you dont have to re-prime the filter each time you restart it back up, simply reconnect the taps back to gether and open the taps. Hope you know what I mean lol.

Any thing else just ask, hope you didnt mind me using your pic to show what I meant


Andy

 

[lilacamy931]

Thanks both so much.

I will give that a go Monty-2010, thanks for letting me know otherwise I would have left it And I will get clamps asap!


Thanks very much for that arobinson1984, the piccy bit was really helpful When it came with the 4 bits it totally confused me Oh and the outlet is shown pic 5 the green piping that has spray bar attached, though may freshen this up with a new kit.

Thanks again both, lifesavers!!! x


EDIT Actually thinking it may have been the extra sponge put at the bottom, the lid clipped back on and everything but could this affect it? If so how on earth do I take the top off as it hasnt got valve to shut off the pipes?

Further EDIT figured out how to take the pipes off, nifty function - i like! Further problem cant fix the water level problem, took the sponge out redid and when turned on the water decreased and made a noise, put my extra bit back in and it was working again with a water level like this:

 

[lilacamy931]

Small further thought as getting desperate now (worried something bad is going to happen) perhaps my length of tubing isnt right, would this make a difference? Taken it all apart this morning and reprimed from the beginning, it still works better with my extra sponge at the bottom.

EDIT tried the eheim, it appears it is not working as the motor head doesnt work?

 

[arobinson1984]

Hi lilacamy, cant help with the rena as I've never used one before.

Is the eheim still not working? Is the impellor clean and freely moving? Has the fuse in the plug blown?


Andy

 

[lilacamy931]

Hey arobinson, thanks for the reply x I did look at the impeller and it is all clean and given the unit a rinse out, hadnt thought of a blown fuse, that shall be my next route Thanks for helping, I know Im very blonde when it comes to the equipment

 

[lilacamy931]

Final update, the eheim did work with a new amp but there is something not right with the motor as it wouldnt pump water, so we went with a secondary similar filter and spent a whole day getting the stupid thing to work which eventually we did and touch wood all good.

As to the XP3 it just wont go to the top no matter what and makes funny noises at time, it is pumping water through at those levels but unsure what to do, we took the whole thing apart and back together again but still the same thing. We have pipe clamps too now..

 

[Harlequins]

HI hun

Hows that XP filter going?

I don't know if this will help much...

I know you're not this daft like me,when i first connected my external,i put the intake on the outlet instead of course this didn't have the desired affect

The funny noises could still be trapped air in the media? what media do you have in the trays?
Does the impeller seem ok and not worn down?

 

[lilacamy931]

Thanks for the pic hon that is really helpful At work at the mo but will have a looksie when home to see what have laid out. That is a good idea on the impellar, think I will take apart again and give another go this weekend as not happy with the noises!!

p.s. that is a perfect pic much better than the manual!