New Betta!

[Maxsmom]

But TMX - that was the point of this disagreement... everyone is trying to help educate her... and IMO, trying to be very kind about it. Yes, we all have made mistakes at one time or another... but most of us do appreciate the good advice. I know she finds herself maybe in a difficult situation... but with all that was said, she can take the knowledge she gained and talk to her parents about it. I won't pass judgement on her parents... whether they're rational or not... we'll have to assume that most parents are so hopefully her's will be too and hear her out. Again, if she talks WITH them in a MATURE and RESPONSIBLE way (not yelling - just emphasizing words here) - most rational parents will see that in their child and encourage their good decision making. I just hope she does talk with her parents and presents her point of view... IF she really wants to make her fish happier and make their lives comfortable for how ever long she has them. Good luck bettgirl! I hope you can talk with your parents.

 

[Dibari]

to Tmx -


That's the silliest thing to attack me on. No offense, but grow up and look at real issues and not how people type. I think I stayed quite polite most of the time, untill the 'They're MY fish and I'll care for them how I want to'.

 

[ryguy]

love your bettas. they're so fun to keep!

 

[Zafirah]

Can someone close this thread, she can keep her bettas in whatever she wants, i know 1/4 gallon isnt aquadit but, they are her bettas, and instead if harassing her and making her feel bad, maybe give her time, i know it is to have parents, mine were stubborn to, until i took it upon mysrelf to get bigger tanks. I went out and baught them by myself

 

[Maxsmom]

Zafirah, no one is actually trying to attack her... just trying to get a point across... no one is trying to be malicious... infact, everyone has held it together pretty well. We're just trying to help educate her b/c she did admit she's new to this... and that's what was offered. She became defensive (which is understandable)... it definitely wasn't my intention to shame her or make her feel bad... just wanted to offer some advice so both her and her fish would be happier with their living conditions.

One thing we can all agree on is that we're pretty passionate when it comes to bettas and their living conditions.

But betta-keeping really should be taken more seriously than a casual hobby... it's the bettas that suffer for anything less... I know I don't have to tell you that since you're a rescuer to begin with.

Cheers!

 

[jess6905]

bettagirl know its been said before but please try to do something about the tanks you have your fish in. talk to your parents first but dont fuss at them and act childish when you do. of they still say no then gather up your own money if they are the ones who pay for that sort of thing and do it with out thier aproval. they might get mad but then again they might not be as upset as you think. one other thing your boys are beautiul lil bettas.

the rest of you............. so they are in tanks that are smaller than they should be, but you know what it happens!!!! just about all of us have already established this about 1million times over on just about everythread that the person said thier betta was in a tank that was 2 1/2 gallons or less. she knows they need bigger tanks, but no matter what you say you cant force her to do anything unless you do go as far as calling the aspca, but honstly they wont do anything about because even though the conditions arent the best for the fish they arent the worst possible conditions either. yes there was the option of not buying them knowing that the tanks werent the proper size, but if her parents wouldnt let her get a bigger tank then stop putting all the blame on her. not all parents are aware of or even care about the proper tank sizes for the fish they let thier kids get. i'll agree though that the comment about 1 gallon of water being alot of water is well rather stupid(sorry couldmt think of a better way to put it). as for those of you who have said that they arent attacking anyone on this thread........ you are full of it plain and simple. i just sat here and read through every single post. yes she was/is being stubborn at this time, but you who keep coming back and constantly pick at that her or anyone else for that matter for the same thing time and time again are not helping the situation. if you told them the best information you can give them to educate them and they still wont listen then stop replying, wait til who ever that person may be asks for the help and is willing to listen, or never help that person again and ignor thier posts completly(i dont think any of you would actually do that though). i know you all want what is best for the fish but yelling/lecturing/attacking people wont help the situation any!!!

KEEP IN MIND IM NOT TRYING TO TAKE SIDES HERE, BUT IF YOU ARE UPSET BY ANYTHING I HAVE JUST SAID THEN PM ME AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT THERE DONT RUIN THIS THREAD ANY FURTHER PLEASE.

 

[poopsydrew]

^^^didnt bother reading

 

[SoCalMom]

^^^didnt bother reading

LOL

 

[lilfishie]

well i am surprised no one has said anything about lids for them, i agree they do need a bigger tank my 2 have a 2.5 gal and a 3 gal and its just as easy to clean ans my 1 gal fry tank. you could always try get your parents to show more interest in the care of your fish, then it may be easier to persuade them on a bigger tank, if its two tanks your worried abuot you could always get a 5 gal and divide it giving them 2.5 gal each

 

[stang1]

It comes to something when you can't give advice without being accused of "attacking" someone.
Everybody has given good advice, it's now up to you to see if you can convince your parents to let you have bigger bowls.
We are all here to give help and advice about fish, the welfare of the fish is important to people.

 

[t.ropical_m.istx3]

here's another issue then, would you rather those bettas be kept in those nasty cups for maybe another week or two until they died or were bought by somebody who would keep them in those cups without ever cleaning them (this is what happens 90% of the time, isn't it?) or be bought by somebody (in general terms since we have to be so specific in this thread ) who may not have the "proper" tank size or proper something or other but the tanks are cleaned every few days and this fish in general are happier than they were in those cups?

i'm done replying on this thread since so many people are rude (once again, general terms, i don't feel like going through and looking up every person who i feel was being rude since i can't speak in general terms . there's a difference between saying "she" and "you guys". i was speaking in plural terms. next time, i think i'll go through and name everybody who fits my opinion )

 

[stang1]

here's another issue then, would you rather those bettas be kept in those nasty cups for maybe another week or two until they died or were bought by somebody who would keep them in those cups without ever cleaning them (this is what happens 90% of the time, isn't it?) or be bought by somebody (in general terms since we have to be so specific in this thread ) who may not have the "proper" tank size or proper something or other but the tanks are cleaned every few days and this fish in general are happier than they were in those cups?

i'm done replying on this thread since so many people are rude (once again, general terms, i don't feel like going through and looking up every person who i feel was being rude since i can't speak in general terms . there's a difference between saying "she" and "you guys". i was speaking in plural terms. next time, i think i'll go through and name everybody who fits my opinion )

While I agree to an extent, moving a Betta from a cup to a tiny bowl isn't giving them a much better quality of life. Yes they are better off being cared for but not if they are being kept in unsuitable conditions. Sooner or later, the Betta will end up suffering and that is not fair on the fish.
As I said before, people have been giving good advice and i don't find any of them particularly rude. Maybe some people are a little more sensitive than others?

 

[dmarie04]

Most of what needs to be said has been said so I'm just going to offer what extra advice I can.

Until your parents let you upgrade to an actual tank then a tupperware container or one of those rubbermaid totes work just fine as a temporary "tank". They do need to be in something bigger than those little jars. I have those jars for fry and they are tiny!!

If you leave your bettas in those jars then here is what you need to do.....
Cover the tops!! Bettas need lids. Bettas will jump to their death and then you'll be left with crispy bettas!

Do 100% water changes at LEAST every other day. A 50% water change every day would probably be better. Use a turkey baster to suck up any uneaten food IMMEDIATELY. Water changes are stressful and constant water changes are even more stressful. Make sure the water you add in is treated and is the exact same temp to the water they are in at the moment.

Move them away from each other or put something in between so they can't see each other. They are stressed enough from their small space. They don't need the added stress of seeing another male all the time.

Avoid temperature fluctuations. A constant lower temp is better than an ever changing temp. Bettas really should have 76F-80F, but if it's not possible then don't try to bring the temp up by constantly adding warm water or turning a lamp on and off.

Get breeding off your mind! If you can't get tanks for the fish you have, then you can't have 100 jars for fry, 10 gal spawning tank, and 40 gallons for grow out space!

Everyone has given you GREAT advice. We care about your fish and want the best for them. We are only trying to educate you, not berate you. The first step of having a pet is making sure you can care for them before they come home with you. You skipped this step, and your bettas are paying the price. If you care about your pets then you will do what you can to make sure they are well taken care of.

 

[Maxsmom]

Well... everything has been said... she has great advice - even on how to approach her parents... so hopefully, she'll succeed. But let this be a lesson to anyone who is thinking of getting a betta or has one or more and CAN upgrade their tanks to bigger sizes...

I do agree with what TMX said... it IS a tad better than the cups they are housed in - and she does obviously love them so maybe their basics are being taken care of (keep up on those water changes though for tiny bowls)... but WHAT IF those bettas were infact bought by someone who DOES think they belong in bigger bowls. They could have also had an even better life.

This community is here to educate and help each other out - the spirit of what was said here is just that! I'm done here... good luck bettagirl! I hope you can do what you can! Take care!

 

[SoCalMom]

here's another issue then, would you rather those bettas be kept in those nasty cups for maybe another week or two until they died or were bought by somebody who would keep them in those cups without ever cleaning them (this is what happens 90% of the time, isn't it?) or be bought by somebody (in general terms since we have to be so specific in this thread ) who may not have the "proper" tank size or proper something or other but the tanks are cleaned every few days and this fish in general are happier than they were in those cups?

i'm done replying on this thread since so many people are rude (once again, general terms, i don't feel like going through and looking up every person who i feel was being rude since i can't speak in general terms . there's a difference between saying "she" and "you guys". i was speaking in plural terms. next time, i think i'll go through and name everybody who fits my opinion )

Thanks for the grammar lesson