Mission Impossible, Is Possible

[Jenste]

def sounds like an interesting tank...is this the same tank that had the disaster a week ago? seems like some good came out of that unplanned stock change!

 

[BethK]

def sounds like an interesting tank...is this the same tank that had the disaster a week ago? seems like some good came out of that unplanned stock change!

yup, totally same tank

 

[Forestpisces]

I've often wondered how long it would be before things like this startedto happen and it deffinately shows progression in the breeding for temperment and colour side of bettas personally i think it's excellent that things are finally moving along in that area. Keep an eye on them but good luck!

i wonder how long it will be if ever before we see males and males together

 

[Curiosity101]

i wonder how long it will be if ever before we see males and males together

Significantly longer because at the end of the day there will be some level of natural agression to rival males like with most animals. I mean put it this way, dwarf gouramis were never bred for agression but they're right little sods with other males.
I can't see males ever co-existing to be honest.

 

[Forestpisces]

Very true that there will be aggression but i remember a time when it was a sin against god to keep males and females together now it's becoming more accepted, i also remember a time when keeping a betta in anything more than 2gals was a "waste". Prsonally none of my lone boys are in less than 6 gals and many people choose to keep their pets in a larger and more comfortable home.

Goodness knows what could happen next

 

[Curiosity101]

Very true that there will be aggression but i remember a time when it was a sin against god to keep males and females together now it's becoming more accepted,

You make it sound like people said don't do it because that's just what people said... The point always was don't do it because the WILL rip eachother to bits. This was a fact, there were no ifs or buts. It just wasn't worth risking as 99.9% ended up with dead fish. Now it's maybe 20% see success... hence why it's more of a 'Yes you could try it, but only if you know what you're looking out for and are able to seperate them within minutes if neccesary'.

more than 2gals was a "waste"

This came from the same old fashioned thinking that didn't know about cycling n such. It wasn't the nitrogen bacs that kept things ticking over... it was magic My point being, fish keeping should evolve as new science and new experiences are added to the pot. If you take a slice of the fish keeping time line you'll find the 'rules for keeping fish', but these are only true of that time.
If you look at it as a whole it's constantly changing to suit.

The thing stopping people putting males together (and so stopping anyone saying try it), is that they WILL and DO rip eachother to bits if they get a chance. It's not a 'possibility' still a certainty. And I personally can't see them ever living peacefully alongside eachother purely because like I said, for males of the species it makes sense biologically not to attack females, but males are fair game as they're competition.

 

[BethK]

See, I was in the crowd of 'males and females never together' and I wouldn't have tried it with my previous males. But this boy, he is a good year older than the oldest girl, putting him around 2yrs old, so i figured older aged played a key (?). Also, the amount of times he had escaped and there being no issue, was most probably another factor that they got use to eachother.

There was an accidental spawning, seemed to happen over night but the pk girl was adamant about getting into his sectioned part of the tank pretty big bubble nest, he was having issues wrapping her but eggs were falling, they were picking up but he destroyed the nest with his tail and dorsal fin. Was gutted, after a few hrs spawning, he wrecks it but hey ho, that's life.

if we could breed bettas, to be like other fish who have 1 male to 3 females ratio, I think it would be grand.

I wouldn't try male/male, i could seen that being an accident waiting to happen.

 

[Deek]

Read something about 2 males sharing a tank before but it was done over months with the males being kept side by side etc and then put in same tank with a separator seemed like more hassle than it was worth

 

[rlhirth]

Read something about 2 males sharing a tank before but it was done over months with the males being kept side by side etc and then put in same tank with a separator seemed like more hassle than it was worth

i had males in a divided tank for 2 years... never flared at eachother EVER... and they could definatly see eachother... and one day the one jumped the divided are nearly killed the other!!! so you never know...

 

[BethK]

i think males are more unpredictable out of the betta sexes

 

[aly_starh]

I dont really thing age plays a part tbh, the male in my females tank is only 6 months old.
He was the male that wouldnt breed with the female, and after them living together peacefully for around 2 weeks i figured i might aswell give it ago and see how he is in the main tank.

There has neen no breeding or bubble nesting, i think that might be because of the filter flow etc.

 

[LilyRose Tank]

this is a really interesting thread. if you would keep 10 females with a male in a 125L tank, what ratio would you recommend for a 90L....just curious, thats all. (8:1, or 7:1)

 

[aly_starh]

this is a really interesting thread. if you would keep 10 females with a male in a 125L tank, what ratio would you recommend for a 90L....just curious, thats all. (8:1, or 7:1)

Hmm, well my tank is 65L and it has 4 females to 1 male.

It is honestly pot luck IMO.

 

[BethK]

i wouldn't go out and buy a male, to put in there. I would also keep females for a while, together, so you know if they are a close knit group or narky.

bubble nesting is a sign that a male is ready to breed, so don't worry if he is not bubble nesting x