Live Bacteria

[CeeJayy]

Hi.

Im starting up my tank, and ive used this before and thinking of using it again for my new tank. Its made by Soll (A french company) And its called Bactinettes - My LFS love the stuff!

On the leaftlet it says ''Live, Immediately active filter-bacteria: For Crystal clear water, allowed immediate stocking of new aquarium (24 Hrs).

Eliminates ammonia, nitrite and nitrates
Removes chlorine.
Bind heavy metals
Suitable for fresh,cold and marine water.

Inside it says

Live filter bacteria, allowing immediate stocking of a aquarium within 24 hours.
The quickets natural solution against ammonia, nitrite and nitrate.
Healthy fish, healthy plants.
Can be used to re-seed the filter of a mature aquarium
For crystal clear water.

It has a FAQ part, and says ill have to use a dose after every time i clean my filter, but i clean it in the aquarium water i have taken out anyway. I used it in my BiOrb and everything has been great so far, so i think ill get it again. All you do is drain the water they come in and dangle them in a net. Anyone else used them/what do you think about Live Bacteria?

Thanks for any replies. CJ.

 

[waterdrop]

CeeJayy, I think there were some threads a while back about bactinettes no longer being manufactured and the remaining stock just having been out there too long. You are correct that bactinettes (in the UK) were perhaps the only "shipped bacteria" product that enjoyed a small percentage of success (IF kept refridgerated all the way through the process and IF not very old.) No idea whether this might have changed and some other business has picked up the assets and re-started the business and is now producing fresh bacteria packages. As with all bacteria transport attempts, there no harm (other than the money loss of course) in trying it in your cycling filter just like any other "mature media." Even the "placebo effect" can help sometimes with the length of a cycle.

~~waterdrop~~

 

[OldMan47]

Nitrospira in the US was discontinued. The bactinettes I thought were still being made but I could be wrong. When using a product like this, it is best to treat the tank as a fishless cycle and add the ammonia. If you find that the ammonia gets processed right away and there is no nitrite build up, you will know that it worked that time. If it does not get processed quickly, no fish will have been harmed and the fishless cycle can continue to its conclusion.

 

[aaronnorth]

(IF kept refridgerated all the way through the process and IF not very old.)

they are sent in a refrigerated van in 24hrs, also all stores that sell them are offered a fridge.
They worked for me when i used them

 

[greenscooby]

PANTS, thats what i think.

Fishless cycling is the best way to go.

Mark.

 

[CeeJayy]

I went and got some today at my LFS. The man said its best to treat your water, and on the day of getting your fish put them in 3/4 hours before and then go and get your fish. The fish ''activate'' the bactinettes.

 

[rabbut]

The fish, or any other ammonia source "activate" the bacteria by giving it something to eat

Bactinettes does seem to work on occasion. It's NOB (Nitrite Oxidising Bacteria) is the wrong species, but that does not seem to caurse issues too often. A common issue though is that Ammonia drops off fine, but Nitrite hangs, presumably due to bacteria species choices...

As the others say, the safest way is to use it to seed a Fishless cycle. If the product fails to work, as it does 1 in 3-4 times, no fish get harmed

HTH
Rabbut

 

[Truck]

how can it work for salt water and freshwater? seeing as they have different species of bacteria, unless it contains both?

 

[Tina c]

If you have another tank why not just use some of the mature media from that to kick off the cycle, you could then possibly have fish within a week,

 

[CeeJayy]

I do have a Coldwater tank.. but the filter is a cartridge filter.. if you get me? You kind of slot it in and take it out... My new tank has an Elite stingray filter.

 

[OldMan47]

That cartridge is loaded with the right kinds of bacteria. If you clean your cartridge in the new tank then add your first dose of ammonia, the bacteria that come loose during cleaning will give a great head start to the filter and it will be the right bacteria. I have done this many times and it always got my cycle done within about a week. Sometimes, the first dose of ammonia shows very good processing and other times it takes a day or two to get a good start but it seems to always be ready within about a week.

 

[rabbut]

One slight problem though....

The OP is running an Elite Stingray filter...

For those on here that aren't formiliar with this filter range, they all contain Zeolite cartriges that effectively "break" the cycle by out-compeeting and killing the beneficial filter bacteria You need to either modify or replace the filter before you attempt the cycle, or you will just waste your time Personally, I'd change filters, since the stingrays are poor at both mechanical and biological filtering, even after modifications, due to the limited space for media in them. You can however use a Dremmle to cut open the Zeolite cartriges and install Sponge, Ceramic Rings or other bio-media. This stops you needing regular replacements when the tank is running also, saving money in the long-run while keeping the water quality far better than Zeolite will

All the best
Rabbut

 

[DJ ArKaDaRkA]

One slight problem though....

The OP is running an Elite Stingray filter...

For those on here that aren't formiliar with this filter range, they all contain Zeolite cartriges that effectively "break" the cycle by out-compeeting and killing the beneficial filter bacteria You need to either modify or replace the filter before you attempt the cycle, or you will just waste your time Personally, I'd change filters, since the stingrays are poor at both mechanical and biological filtering, even after modifications, due to the limited space for media in them. You can however use a Dremmle to cut open the Zeolite cartriges and install Sponge, Ceramic Rings or other bio-media. This stops you needing regular replacements when the tank is running also, saving money in the long-run while keeping the water quality far better than Zeolite will

All the best
Rabbut

hey what part is the zeolite im currently doing a fish in cycle with this filter i added mature media yesterday but if this zeolite will kill the bactirea i want it out

 

[DJ ArKaDaRkA]

i just removed the both cartrages all together and stuffed the space full of sponge im hoping this will work its only a 5 gal so this filter should be ok because it will probally only house one dwarf puffer later down the line

 

[Truck]

i just removed the both cartrages all together and stuffed the space full of sponge im hoping this will work its only a 5 gal so this filter should be ok because it will probally only house one dwarf puffer later down the line

zeolite removes ammonia