Kids Right's, Fish Rights...

which they do have here. At my GOOD local petco, 18 and under can not buy any animal, including fish....

I have a beard. So of course they assume me over 18 :p
 
People who have seen me before think I am alot older than I am. Still it would be breaking the law if you lied......
 
It would be easy to make a standared fish keeping test for the liscense. Know about amonia, nitrates, Different subtrates and what benifits they have, and so on.

And then there would be subtests for specific fish you wanted to keep. Water standards, Tank size, subtrate, what a suitable tank would be, ect.

Someone would have to make an official study guide though. Any book you read, any internet site you visit, and anyone you ask will have a different idea on pratically EVERYTHING! The most anyone can agree on is really that fish need water. Every other aspect, you'll get a different answer from whomever ask. Even the mature size of any kind of fish known to mankind can be debated because all fish are different!
So the whole test idea doesn't work.

Research doesn't do it for some people. Some people need hands on expirence, so how would they get it. If you set up programs, great, but that wouldn't happen.

Fish are low on the animal rights list. Even some veggitarians eat fish just because they're not cute and cuddlely.
 
Not all fish need water all the time lol, lungfish and snakeheads can live in mud fora while. Sorry just wanted to say.
 
Meh, im 14 and i think the laws ok. The really good fish shops will know if your responible or not through talking to you and sell you the fish anyway, and the bad ones dont give a #### and will sell you them because they dont care.

The only bad thing about the law is places like pets@home where nobody has a clue about any of the fish but they wont sell any to you becuase they can get fired and they dont know if your responsible because they have no idea what the hell your talking about 99% of the time. This doesnt really bother me much though because placces like that are only really good for equipment and special offers on fish food, i rarely ever want to buy a fish from there.

When i do want to buy fish from there its not that hard anyway because its easy to lie about your age :shifty: .
 
My pet store manager hardly knows how to take care of the fish himself.
I don't know if that's funny or really pathetic. :/

Like I have said before, I think the law makes sense, but I am now teetering on whether or not it should be enforced here. I know that my pet store manager does not sell fish to kids during school hours.

One thing that really pissed my off is that some a-hole at my school swallowed live goldfish as a stunt. To bad the poor fish didn't have incredibly sharp scales, because my school would be better off without that guy :hey: :lol:

Also:
How would you judge how capable someone is for caring for a fish?


Certianly not by how old they are.

:clap:


-Lynden
 
I don't care either way, in all honesty. Laws for anything are bent all the time, so much so they can become pretty meaningless. Laws against buying alcohol (been with a group of 14 year old boys who were buying cans of lager), speeding (need I say more?), underage sex (highest teen pregnancy rate, anyone?) ... Whatever the law happens to be, it'll get bent to whatever the employees in question decide to do anyway.
 
I'm 14 and think its a great law :good: and i cant believe people think otherwise, under 16s cant drive anyway, and what do you do at the moment? walk your fish home? If youre like me you take your mum along, get her to drive you there and back (and pay :lol: )

A: have an extensive test on each fish when buying.

B: Have proof that you have adequat housing that will take care of the fish for at least two years.

C: Have a fish buying liscense, just like a fishing liscense?
jeeeez! :crazy:
this would be a COMPLETE waste of time and money, as i said, is it really that hard to take an adult? its easier to hitch a lift than to walk/take the bus anyway, and a reliable and safe way to get your fish home. To be honest i cant believe how people are making such a big deal out of it, just take an adult.
 
One place asked me if I was 16... actually I'm 20.. but thanks for the insult!
Haha, I feel you. I'm 20 too, but look a lot younger than I am.

Personally, I think anyone under 16 should NOT be able to buy any pet of any kind without a parent's consent.

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Kids are immature. I'm not saying they all are, but most of them are.
Amen to that, sister! Like I said, I'm only 20 myself, so I remember good and well what it was like being a younger teen, and I still feel this way. I barely trust adults to take care of fish, much less children and young teens -- your brain is not even done developing until you are over 17 years of age. The brain of a teen is actually hardwired to function more on impulse rather than thinking about future consequences because in your average person all the right connections for this to effectively happen have not been made yet. Buying fish on impulse is not a good idea.

Looking at it another way, let's pretend for a moment that you are a parent and a caring person. Your child buys a pet fish, then doesn't take care of it properly. Who is forced to take up the slack? Who may be forced to try to rehome it or shell out a wad of cash to buy it a bigger tank, if you child has purchased a fish that will grow much to large without thinking about it? Yeah, that's right, you. Regardless of what injustice those under 16 who find this law unfair may believe they have suffered, it is better for the fish, which is what we should all be thinking about anyway. You've got to take into consideration that hobbyists, particularly young hobbyists, are not the norm, and that we're talking about the potential for animal suffering here, not whether or not you can buy an unfeeling trinket. Get worked up about people having to be 18+ to buy paint markers, at least in that case the only one the buyer can hurt is themself.

I'll say this, I used to be really upset that I couldn't get a tattoo before the age of 18, now I'm glad of it. Not that I would have necessarily regretted what I was planning to get done at that age, but it would have taken up space I'd rather use for what I have designed now, a design that really means something. These laws are in place for a reason.

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A: have an extensive test on each fish when buying.

B: Have proof that you have adequat housing that will take care of the fish for at least two years.

C: Have a fish buying liscense, just like a fishing liscense?
HAHA, missed that until just now. What a waste that would be, and completely unrealistic. You don't even have to go through that much trouble to adopt a cat or dog from a county-run shelter! In order for things to run smoothly, sometimes you just have to be unfair to some people, that's life. Having to go through all that crap would be unfair to EVERYONE rather than just kids!
 
I havn't read the whole thread since it's almost time for me to turn in for the night...but...

I'd be a fan of introducing a "fish liscense", while it may not stop everybody from buying, it will deter some irresponsible kids as they have to go through the process of applying for a liscense, filling in all the forms and what not, then waiting for it to arrive before they can actually go down to the store and buy something.

Also, if store owners and employees actually focused on being helpful rather than selling as many fish as possible to make a quick buck, maybe we'd have a lot less problems...

Just my 2 cents :)
 
i think it is a good law.
because you may be getting kids buying them just to harm them (chavs)
plus at 16 years old you tend to be more responsable
 
In this country it is legal for a child to buy a pet from the age of 12. I don't agree with it one bit. Personally I'd rather see the age limit for buying a pet off your own back raised to 18, with under 18s having to have their parents do it for them - they're generally living in their parent's home (and if not aren't in any situation to be buying pets), and let's face it the parents pay and generally end up taking care of the animals.

I have 3 kids and my eldest is coming up to the age where it'll be legal for him to walk into any petshop and buy any animal he wants. Thing is, if he does, he'll be marched straight back down there and be grounded for life :lol:

Kids might be good at helping with animals, but they're not responsible enough to take on family pets alone. Until they are, they shouldn't be allowed to buy them.
 
It seems to me that most people above 16 don't realise just how many under 16 year olds there are on the forum. So saying a blanket 'Kids might be good at helping with animals, but they're not responsible enough to take on family pets alone. Until they are, they shouldn't be allowed to buy them.' or similar isn't really a good philosophy :lol:
 
In this country it is legal for a child to buy a pet from the age of 12. I

I have only just found out about this! I always thought it was 16+, but this must just be store policy round this area. I stumbled across the age being 12 when I sent the order with Trimar, and I enquired about the laws.
 
It seems to me that most people above 16 don't realise just how many under 16 year olds there are on the forum. So saying a blanket 'Kids might be good at helping with animals, but they're not responsible enough to take on family pets alone. Until they are, they shouldn't be allowed to buy them.' or similar isn't really a good philosophy :lol:


I don't see why not. I personally think that any family pet should be obtained by responsible means - the kids on here may or may not follow that, but they're not my kids and therefore it's not my responsibility. :good:

Remember, the law is for any pet too, dogs, cats, the works. I find that very disturbing and depressing - no child should be ultimately responsible for an animal. I didn't say they couldn't have pets, but that in my opinion pets should not be bought by under 18 year olds when the parent is ultimately responsible.
 

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