Just Got My Ada Pollen Ii Diffuser

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whatever it may be, I'm pricing up a 48x18x18 as we speak
That an ADA tank, would that need to be imported built ?? eek!
I've had a quote from Windsor Aquatics for a rimless, braceless 12mm float glass for £160. With high-clarity front pane for just over £200. I think it's quite reasonable when an ADA 36x18x18 is £320.

Lighting is the next priority - either the luxury Giesemann Infinity 1200mm 2 x 150W MH and 2 x 54W HO T5 (£595) or the much cheaper Arcadia overtank luminaire - 52" (46" tubes) 4 x 54W HO T5 (£225). I wonder what the missus would prefer!?

How's the mist looking mate?
 
Quote "I was going to fix it up tonight. Decided I have too much work to do and want to do it properly so I will resist and do it at weekend."

Just waiting on another AE deliery this morning, then i`ll set it up. Will report later today!

Chris
 
WOW!! absolutely amazing!!!

It started of bubbling from a single position, i was gutted. 1 minute later, 2 positions then after about 5 minutes it is now misting from the whole surface!!

I will post a few pictures and even a short video clip later tonight, about 10pm !

Chris
 
WOW!! absolutely amazing!!!

It started of bubbling from a single position, i was gutted. 1 minute later, 2 positions then after about 5 minutes it is now misting from the whole surface!!

I will post a few pictures and even a short video clip later tonight, about 10pm !

Chris

ADA Rocks. Now you guys see why it's worth it. You get what you pay for :)
 
Richard you are bang on, i will certainly stop questioning their price in future.

Here are some pictures as best as i could do!

First one is the general setup with the filter turned off, hence nice straight bubbles. The camera struggles to actually capture the bubbles since most of them are too fine and too fast, they blur.

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Close up, again the camera struggles to capture a lot of the smaller bubbles that are forming a mist. So what you are seeing on the picture is bubbling from the full surface of the ceramic disk, but you are missing many of the micro fine bubbles! Again the filter outlet is turned off so the bubbles go up straight but still they are so fine that they hang around for quite a bit

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Now this is the whole point of why i wanted to pay the extra for the ADA. George inspired me to read a lot of Tom Barrs work on the CO2 mist, which i went away a did.

I don’t know how many of you understand this but the idea being that you produce a fine mist of CO2 bubbles and the filter outlet is then directed at them from the other side of the tank which blows them all around the tank, thus giving super fine CO2 bubbles to all corners of the tank!! Yes, sure its not as pretty as watching the bubbles float uniformly to the surface but the theory of it working certainly makes sense and therefore it should hopefully be worth it!!

Is this picture, the filter has been turned on and you can see bubbles are being whipped all around the diffuser (and ultimately around the tank!!). They go absolutely everywhere, i have tried to watch one or two bubbles individually and have noticed that they have hung around in the water for minutes!!

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Like i said before, not the nicest shot but i couldn’t afford lots of people to be downloading from my server so i can only put up one video! I have a great shot with the filter off and the bubbles gently rising to the surface but since that isn`t my aim, i have choose to give you this one, where the CO2 mist idea is in full practice! LOOK how many bubbles go down, rather than up to the surface! Sorry i could not rotate a film so you will have to turn your head, lol.

http://www.training2teach.co.uk/images/blown.AVI


I can safely say that the CO2 mist i have wanted has been achieved! There are bubbles moving to ALL far corners of the tank.

Due to this there are a few "unwanted" or unwelcome repercussions.

Firstly, there are so many super fine bubbles flying around the tank that to a VERY SLIGHT degree, it clouds the water. Ever so slightly, but you can see the bubbles moving around the tank all the time. The bubbles are microscopic, so it isn`t a massive issue and they are not unsightly (they are just bubbles!!) but they are there never the less.

Secondly, the bubbles attach themselves to everything!! it makes it look like all the plants are pearling. Now this isn`t a bad thing, in fact it looks very healthy for the plants, but it is quite excessive and again may not be to everyone’s taste. I was aware of this issue before i tried this setup but in my opinion i am happier with CO2 fed plants than dieing or less healthy ones! I also personally like to see the fake pearling, it looks nice and to be honest, the true pearling bubbles are bigger, so it is obvious which is which.

Overall 10/10. I knew what i wanted it to do and it has done it perfectly.

BTW, without saying, it looks the part ;)

Hope thats useful and i haven`t just been whittering!

Regards
Chris
 
Definitely a big difference, i just bought the two of the cheaper versions here's a pic for comparison for you all.

The left is the aqua mug, its the better of the two, a good bubble distribution, but the aqua beetle is not as good (to right) they seam to come from one point, but I'm not complaining you get what you pay for.
I think the difference in bubble distribution between the two is more to do with the size of the ceramic disc than quality of the ceramic, and indeed the pressure on which it comes out at as AE said in another post.

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Do we know anything about the cleaning of the diffuser?

(I can't believe how sad we all are discussing bubbles coming from a glass object in a tank) :lol:
 
lol, its about the quality of bubbles!! not just any bubbles for god sakes!! ;)

Cleaning, i`m gonna buy some of the ADA cleaning fluid nearer the time!

Chris
 
(I can't believe how sad we all are discussing bubbles coming from a glass object in a tank) :lol:

:lol: what else we doing to do on a Sunday morning!

lol, its about the quality of bubbles!! not just any bubbles for god sakes!! ;)

What do you mean by 'quality' Chris? Glad its working and is everything you hoped, how deep in the tank do you have it? I have always thought that the deeper you can put a ceramic diffuser the better? So the bubbles have longer to float to the surface?
 
What do you mean by 'quality' Chris? Glad its working and is everything you hoped, how deep in the tank do you have it? I have always thought that the deeper you can put a ceramic diffuser the better? So the bubbles have longer to float to the surface?


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lol, it was kind of a joke BUT for saying that, i would be pretty cheesed off if my ADA diffuser gave out a stream of very large bubbles, hence I suppose there is an argument to suggest there is such a thing as quality bubbles lol
:hey:

With regards to your "deeper is better" suggestion, I too first though that, but when trying for the CO2 mist this isn’t strictly true. As i have already said a million times i wanted to get a mist of CO2 bubbles spread through out the tank. Therefore, it is not the natural lift of the bubbles that is giving them time to diffuser, but actually the filter outlet dispersing them around the tank. I needed to find the best position to do this. When i setup my new tank with the Ehiem external and lily pipes i will be able to fine tune this even more but for now my jewel internal outlet is still capable! Imagine the outflow blowing against the diffuser at the bottom of the tank; what happened is that the CO2 ended up being whipped to the surface very quickly due to the current of the water bouncing off the glass. If I actually placed the diffuser just above half way up the tank, the water current hit the CO2 micro bubbles in a downward angle and thus carried 80% of the bubbles DOWN to a position under the diffuser. Sure, a % rose again to the surface but an equally large % were circulated along the bottom front glass panel of my tank and thus eventually dispersed throughout the whole of the tank!! I achieved a good CO2 mist.

It is nice to physically see that nearly every corner of my tank contains tiny bubbles of CO2. I only installed the unit on Saturday and already i can see a huge increase in growth of my glosso!! I am almost certain that this is because the CO2 mist is moving all around the glosso roots, which again you can physically see. The glosso is also one of the first areas that the CO2 is blown, straight from the diffuser.

Hope that makes sense, it does to me! Whether the science is there i am not totally sure lol ?
 

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