Heater For A 17L Tank.

[BethK]

they maybe small but they need a min of 19ltrs

 

[Curiosity101]

they maybe small but they need a min of 19ltrs

In a well maintained, filtered tank which is created for the puffers best interests in mind (ie. dense planting). The 2 litres will make absolutely no difference and if you think otherwise then fine... but this is coming from someone who was happy to put julli cory in a 30l... I'm not having a go, I'm just saying before you claim that 2l will make a massive difference you need to think about what you personally would do.

Edit: Fish keeping isn't set in stone. If the OP had posted a message saying 'I want a dwarf puffer' what size tank should I get. I'd have suggested a 5gal for a single one, but they didn't. They have a 17l tank and imo the dwarf puffer would be perfectly suitable for it if the OP wanted to get one.

 

[BethK]

No need to get personal is there and if you actually bothered to follow up, you would find that my corys are in a 60ltr.

It's not about maintaining, it's about space, therefore the 2-3ltrs taken by substrate makes a big difference.

 

[Curiosity101]

No need to get personal is there and if you actually bothered to follow up, you would find that my corys are in a 60ltr.

It's not about maintaining, it's about space, therefore the 2-3ltrs taken by substrate makes a big difference.

I did follow up. They were moved because they were being harassed by your betta not because you decided it was too small for them. And it's not getting personal in anything more than how you keep fish. I just don't think it's fair that you consider putting a 6cm fish in a 30l tank when apparently a 17l tank isn't suitable for dwarf puffer. Which for the record use the whole of the tank and so would have 17l to itself and wouldn't miss 2-3ltrs of 'substrate'. Julli corys on the other hand remain soley on the substrate and so yes taking volume away (if it meant removing length rather than height from the tank) would affect them.

This is the last I'm going to say on the matter. This isn't about who's 'right or wrong'. Just that you need to look at your own fish keeping before giving advice (I do this myself). And that you need to consider more than just the length of the tank because the needs of fish vary so much by species.

 

[drsquirrel]

I use a £6 25w Chinese special (don't kid yourself, most of the other branded ones are from the same place).

Nearly everything electronic or electrical we buy comes from China or the Far East. That doesn't mean that it's all the same quality though - there's even examples of two factories producing the same product (either a very good clone or the same), one with good quality control (six-sigma) and the other with what appears to be no quality control. One will cost £200, the other £600. So there's fairly high odds that a £6 heater won't be built to the same standards as a £20 one.

Aye, same factory that does a run off with the same tooling but less (or no) QC batching. Although your "build quality" here is going to be near the same, it's just they're not checking so thoroughly for faulty batches.

The main cost in buying through retailer isn't "built to a higher/lesser quality", its the import duties, distributor cost, retailer cost, retailer warranty costings, duties etc. If the non QC went through the same channels this "£6 cheapy" would be closer to the £20 labelled model.

Not all items that come through branded names go through such brilliant QC either, they try and get away with as little as possible - and balance it against cost of QC and cost of warranty.

As for heaters, I've heard of so many with thermostats sticking on and most of these are branded, I know buying cheap is apparently gambling with your stock, although for a RCS tank I'd take the "risk", although for larger marine, a heater with a warranty - granted a warranty doesn't fix fried fish at all and they do go wrong and it would be silly to rely on this.



I know from working with LEDs and "Cheap Chinese" components that I can build something that is more reliable than a "branded" product for half the price.


Sadly - people buy into brands just like they think Nike shoes are the greatest ever and pay £££s for them.

 

[oneblondebrow]

Okay I just bought the heater, not that I need one as the tank is 28/29degrees anyway!

Now I need to decide on the fish, any reccomendations?

I had 2 ammano shrimps and a male Betta in my one and that may even have been slightly overloaded. Maybe just a single Betta