Finally Starting The Tank Over

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mossonthemoon

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A couple of months ago I posted about discovering live fish in the tank that was inaccessible for a long time. Instead of trying to get that tank running from such disastrous conditions, I decided it would be easier to get the remaining fish into a smaller tank and slowly improve the water quality from there. I was nervous I would shock them by putting them into too much new water. Anyway, that worked out well and the water is definitely at normal conditions now. I planned on moving them back to the large tank last month, but was unwell, so have just started setting that one up today. It is currently filtering after having added new sand. Once the water has settled and it is clear, I plan to rinse any dust from the sponges, add the rest of my filter medium, and seed the tank with the sponges from the small tank that they are currently in. Once it has cycled I will move them over.

Unfortunately we only have one tetra and one bristlenose now. (To be fair though, the other bristlenose was about ten years old so whilst the incident probably didn't help, I have the feeling it would have happened in the not-too-distant future anyway. :sad: ) Anyway, I will have to get some emperor tetras first to make my one remaining more comfortable, but this whole series of events has completely thrown me and I don't know what to do with the rest of the tank. I thought I was starting from scratch and considered a cichlid tank, but now know this won't be possible. Can anyone help me with the rest?

I hope to get the tank very well planted eventually, but I have had mixed success with having many plants at once in the past, so am going with the assumption that it will be medium-planted for now. I am going to get some Malaysian trumpet snails to keep the sand in decent condition. Would it be silly to order some on ebay? I don't know of a place around me that gives them away. I want a pair of cichlids of some type, but no idea which. I expect these to be the last fish I add, but for planning purposes, does anyone have any suggestions? I had some nannacara anomala that I loved in the past, but haven't found any for sale since.

If I have a group of emperor tetras (size depending on what else I get), my bristlenose, and probably some type of dwarf cichlid, what else would be interesting to put in, assuming I can find them? I had some orange finned danios that I enjoyed a lot. I think if I found some they would be an option, if that gives an idea of what I like. I also had some pentazona barbs. I do hesitate about recreating an old tank when I have this "opportunity" (I hesitate to call of this an opportunity) to do something different.

Also, does anyone have any opinions on going into Edinburgh and getting a train back with fish? I know a few good places there for fish, but not so many around me. The train take 1.5 hours at most, but it would probably be about an hour from the store to the train leaving. I've never travelled as long as that with newly purchased fish. Thanks in advance.

ETA: Would it work to just have the tetras with the orange finned danios (if I find them) OR pentazona barbs if I can't find the danios, and a pair of cichlids along with my bristlenose? I don't think I would mind having a species tank, but I don't want to keep the tetra on its own, and I'm not sure I want a tank with only emperor tetras.
 
Sorry, I just edited to ask a question about a particular mix and forgot to add the tank information. It's the Juwel Rio 180, so 180 litres. I am currently using the standard filtration and lighting it came with.
 
I have one more question... for now. I rinsed the sand for a very long time and the water was looking clear, however the tank has been very murky for hours. I am worried that I haven't rinsed it enough. How long should it take before the filter clears it out (it has a big stack of fine sponges and wool in it), and if it is still murky after that time what should I do? And whilst one the topic of sand, how do I make new plants stay planted in it? I haven't tried yet but am anticipating problems since it always was with gravel. Okay, two questions. :blush:
 
I have one more question... for now. I rinsed the sand for a very long time and the water was looking clear, however the tank has been very murky for hours. I am worried that I haven't rinsed it enough. How long should it take before the filter clears it out (it has a big stack of fine sponges and wool in it), and if it is still murky after that time what should I do? And whilst one the topic of sand, how do I make new plants stay planted in it? I haven't tried yet but am anticipating problems since it always was with gravel. Okay, two questions. :blush:

I've never had sand, but it should take a couple of hours, it happened to me even with gravel (small bits clouded the water...). I suppose you could do a water change if it really bothers you. Shouldn't planting in sand be easier than with gravel? I imagine you'd just poke a hole with your hand and put the plant in and cover up the roots with sand so it stays :) With gravel, it is a pain, I agree. :lol:

Oh, and as for your stocking questions I have no idea, sorry :( I'm sure a more knowledgeable soul will come and help you out :good:
 
Thank you! I don't know. I think I assumed that sand is so fine that the roots would just float out of it. It has been half a day now and the tank is very murky. I'm not in a huge rush though, so will see how it looks tomorrow.
 
Thank you! I don't know. I think I assumed that sand is so fine that the roots would just float out of it. It has been half a day now and the tank is very murky. I'm not in a huge rush though, so will see how it looks tomorrow.

Oh, that's a good point. Maybe put a few rocks next to the plant to keep it from coming out? I do that for my plants :good:
 
Just wanted to say I've had great experiences getting snails off ebay. I've ordered 3 times from 2 different people. Snails package so well and easily.
 

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