Fao Kittykat

[the_lock_man]

Kat,

I've just read the thread re the Sera test kit, where you suggested a different method of dosing for a fishless cycle.

It sounds intriguing, but I have a question for you.

As I understand it, the N-bacs take longer to grow than the A-bacs. They also have 2.7 x the amount of food to munch through than the A-bacs.

So, while you are waiting for the N-bacs to eat all their nitrite, the A-bacs are not eating anything - so why don't they die off completely? Or is that the point - your A-bac population yo-yos, whilst the N-bac population rises and falls less extremely?

I'd like to more fully understand what you reckon is going to happen to the bacteria populations.

Thanks!

 

[walkers101]

could this not be done via pm?

 

[the_lock_man]

It could, but others may also be interested.

 

[CezzaXV]

I'm also interested, as since upping my dosage since my nitrite spike, I'm currently adding ammonia quicker than the n-bacs can handle.

 

[Mowbz]

It could, but others may also be interested.

Agree, im watching. Kat comes up with some pretty profound ideas

 

[Tizer]

Do you eat 24/7 to survive?


As far as i am aware bacteria doesnt die as such, it shuts down.

There is a science section on the forum, probably better to have put it there...

 

[the_lock_man]

Do you eat 24/7 to survive?


As far as i am aware bacteria doesnt die as such, it shuts down.

There is a science section on the forum, probably better to have put it there...

There are many posters on this forum who are advised that if they leave their filter for 2/3 weeks with no ammonia source, then all their bacteria will have died, and they will have to re-cycle it, in other words, whether the bacteria have "died" or "shut down", they are therefore useless, and new bacteria need growing.

I'm not suggesting that the bacteria need ammonia 24/7 to survive, but what I inferred from KK's proposal was that the A-bacs be left unfed for several days, whilst the N-bacs eat the nitrite. Now, I don't know how long it will take the N-bacs to grow sufficiently to process 2.7ppm of nitrite, but from a zero position it seems a reasonable estimate to be several days, during which the A-bacs that have grown will "die" for want of a better word. Perhaps the N-bacs "die" at a slower rate than A-bacs. I don't know, that's why I'm asking.

Possibly this would have been better posted in the Science section, I posted here as it was in this section that KK suggested it. I also thought that it would be more likely for her to see it than in Science.

However, it would seem that KittyKat is unwilling to expand further, so I'll just have to remain in ignorance.......

 

[Tizer]

pfft sounds too complicated for my tiny mind to get to grips with. I'm happy to live in ignorance myself

 

[HayzH]

pfft sounds too complicated for my tiny mind to get to grips with. I'm happy to live in ignorance myself

teeeny tiny Tizer.....

 

[BigbruiserAl]

A-bacs die off at around 12% every 24 hours without food source