Eheim 2078 Pro 3E

[raptorrex]

Do you know anything about swatting flies good buddy there's one inside my screen and Ive spent the last 20mins tryin to catch the bugar

, this is version two. the first one i had, found on another forum, has left a dark patch on my LCD. the patch was caused, by me trying to kill the fly!

 

[salty pig]

Do you know anything about swatting flies good buddy there's one inside my screen and Ive spent the last 20mins tryin to catch the bugar

, this is version two. the first one i had, found on another forum, has left a dark patch on my LCD. the patch was caused, by me trying to kill the fly!

Ahhh now there's them lil alien fellows not only do they talk to me at nite there now invading my computer screen. Glad ya got sorted. I have interesting news on the media topic, but if I spend anymore time on the computer " her who must be obayed is gunna kill me dead

 

[waterdrop]

I'm all ears whenever she gives you a few free minutes salty_pig.

I have to say I'm biased by this point by the years of hearing experienced members say that they are still using media that they've used for decades and their ammonia and nitrite never seem to stray from zero. The anticipated possible modification to this would be that a small amount of bio/mech media should be replaced with new material of the same type, rotating it in on an infrequent but regular basis.

I too have had some good interactions with a couple of Eheim people, so am inclined to work their comments in with the good advice I often receive here from other hobbyists. I don't automatically write the eheim folks off as sales only and would certainly relish meeting one who could discuss their wet/dry units for an hour! Nonetheless, I guess we have to treat each person with information as an individual - whose info might or might not pan out, ourselves included.

WD

 

[raptorrex]

Do you know anything about swatting flies good buddy there's one inside my screen and Ive spent the last 20mins tryin to catch the bugar

, this is version two. the first one i had, found on another forum, has left a dark patch on my LCD. the patch was caused, by me trying to kill the fly!

Ahhh now there's them lil alien fellows not only do they talk to me at nite there now invading my computer screen. Glad ya got sorted. I have interesting news on the media topic, but if I spend anymore time on the computer " her who must be obayed is gunna kill me dead

ok, how that for service. i emailed on friday, late. got a reply today first thing.

Changing filtermedia

Thank you very much for your inquiry by email. It is not true that all the filter media generally have to be replaced after 12 months – the insert time could be longer or you have to change it in a shorter time.​

We are sorry, but it is generally not possible to give a period of time when the filter media have to be changed. We recommend to change the filter media after 3 to 5 times washing out. We can not assess how long the period between the cleanings of the respective filter is - sometimes it could be 6 or 8 weeks, sometimes a half year or more.​

We also recommend to change only 2/3 of the filter media Subtrat (or Substrat pro) and 1/3 of the old filter media should stay in the filter – because of the bacteria on the filter media. The white filter pad have to be changed at each cleaning of the filter.​

I hope that this information is helpful for you.​

If you have further questions please don't hesitate to contact us again.​

Mit freundlichen Grüssen / Yours faithfully​

i.A. Cornelia Veith​

received from Eheim. de
now i am really confused. i know, or talk to, lots of people who have had their Eheim media for years. i dont want to try their patients, but i must find out why they recommend this.

even so, with the advice given, it will last longer than 12 months. 6 months is the shortest time between cleans, for me.

 

[salty pig]

now i am really confused. i know, or talk to, lots of people who have had their Eheim media for years. i dont want to try their patients, but i must find out why they recommend this.

even so, with the advice given, it will last longer than 12 months. 6 months is the shortest time between cleans, for me.
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Well done on finding that info. Well If I may put my pennys worth into this topic... I have also taken on board and agree with "waterdrops comments". As you know Im looking 4 another tank and yes my mind is made up on a tank from from an aquarium shop in C------. This one is having a sump, and yes it will still require Nedia. This is a shop which stocks mainly Marine fish but has a small display of Tropical fish. The tanks they sell all come with sumps whether you like it or not. The person I spoke to showed that he was very knowledgeable in keeping tropical fish and .... Wait for this He recommended changing the media on an eheim external filter only when the stuff started to crumble and break down when rinsing it out. "It will last for years "he said. How good is that ??? I have just now sent an email to the Eheim UK Distributor asking there advice on changing media... Oh Mr Spoon what have you started,

 

[raptorrex]

now i am really confused. i know, or talk to, lots of people who have had their Eheim media for years. i dont want to try their patients, but i must find out why they recommend this.

even so, with the advice given, it will last longer than 12 months. 6 months is the shortest time between cleans, for me.

Well done on finding that info. Well If I may put my pennys worth into this topic... I have taken on board and agree with "waterdrops comments". As you know Im looking 4 another tank and yes my mind is made up on a tank from from an aquarium shop in C------. This one is having a sump, and yes it will still require Nedia. This is a shop which stocks mainly Marine fish but has a small display of Tropical fish. The tanks they sell all come with sumps whether you like it or not. The person I spoke to showed that he was very knowledgeable in keeping tropical fish and .... Wait for this He recommended changing the media on an eheim external filter only when the stuff started to crumble and break down when rinsing it out. "It will last for years "he said. How good is that ??? I have just now sent an email to the Eheim UK Distributor asking there advice on changing media... Oh Mr Spoon what have you started,
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all the experienced keepers i know, both eheim and not, (users) say just as you "advisor" did. and, considering efhisubstrate (both) is inert, cleaning should be no more taxing than a flush, with hot water, or a trip to the oven. it could collaps. but then you would know it needed changing, because it would have disappeared. even though i (generally) trust Eheim, not here. it sounds like "sales speak". after all Juwel say you need to change your sponges every few months. and, most of us, know that's bull poo.
still i await the German reply.

 

[T1KARMANN]

i have 2 x 2078s for sale if you want 1 both with pipework £100 + p+p

pm me if intrested

 

[always4lora]

i have 2 x 2078s for sale if you want 1 both with pipework £100 + p+p

pm me if intrested

Cheap! i paid £280 or soomething like that for mine with media!

 

[Mr Spoon]

My ehiem 2078e is all set up and running, i bought 5L of substrat pro, i'm very pleased with it . After reading alot on here about juwel filters i decided to remove it. So i'm using 2 external filters - eheim 2078e and a tetratec ex1200.

 

[salty pig]

i have 2 x 2078s for sale if you want 1 both with pipework £100 + p+p

pm me if intrested

Thanks 4 the offer it's very kind of you to offer them to us first. Thanks M8 . I'm hoping to buy a tank in the next couple of months.. Her in doors wants new carpets and curtains first then I can have my tank. Little does she know she's having bathroom carpet throughout so if there is a spillage or flood I can clean it up at a later date.Oh Clever. Clever Me..Bet no one else thought of that eh ?? Anyway the tanks coming with a sump and pipes n things.So if anyone can tell me what sort of pump I will need to pump the water from the sump back into the tank I would be very grateful for any advice. also can the pump be used to lift the water from a soggy carpet ? ( I know it's gunna happen) The main tank is holds 730 lts of water. haven't got a clue on what media or how long it may last.. Anyone out there

 

[T1KARMANN]

Info for Saltypig. Filter was delivered yesterday and hasn't come with filter media.

they are sold without media, unless the advert states otherwise. but, reasonable costs (£35, or so) kits are available. they are even cheaper off of Ebay.(usually)

there is cheaper (then eheim) media out there. but, IME for these filters, you are best with the makers product. but its not all bad. if you by the Eheim. you will not need to replace anything, except the white pads, for many many years.

I was informed by the Eheim main import agent that the media is best changed every 12 months. The guy said that the micro pores get clogged up and they end up not being able to house the bacteria. Boiling the media does nothing. How true that is god only knows.. Im not entirely happy at the thought of doing this. I suppose a way around it is to keep a diary of how the levels are and do regular water changes. When the tank water does start to become unstable then change 50% of the media, or change a basket every 6 months. Im a bit lost .

well i run efimech and subrate pro from the day they were put on the market

i also had the 2080 on release date and the 2078 on release date

the blue pad can be left in for 1 year easy the way the pads are sold tells you that with the 2078 it 1 blue pad and 4 white pads in a box

as for changing the efimech or substrate pro the eheim rep would tell you that or once you buy the media you wouldnt need to buy anymore

tips to clean the media i wash mine with tank water once per year clean the blue pad every 6 months and change the white pad every 2-6 months depending on how much waster you fish make

if you want to kill and clean out the media to make it like new again put it in the microwave for 3 mins then boil it hay presto new eheim media

 

[salty pig]

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as for changing the efimech or substrate pro the eheim rep would tell you that or once you buy the media you wouldnt need to buy anymore

Im not disagreeing with any thing you have said. It's interesting to get everyone's comments and advice. If as you say that once you have got the media, remembering that most of it arrives when you buy a new filter. Then how come its on the shelves in almost every aquarium shop that I visit ?? I can usually work out if it's an expensive ( rip the shirt of ya back). Or if its a reasonably priced shop by the price and size of the media they sell and we've not yet approached any of the alternatives to using media. A good friend today talked about how he uses plastic women's hair curlers to house the bacteria. And yet iv'e not heard one person say " Yep I had to change my media because my nitrates or whatever went through the roof or that my tank started to smell and fish started to die and so on and so on. The media and whats living in it and how its living is the main contribution to keeping the water pure enough so the fish stay in a healthy environment. Im happy to see what other members think and do. Maybe someone who knows how too could change the topic to " How old is old Media When is the time to change It" or something similar. Im still waiting for The Eheim guy to get back to me. Although will or won't his words change my own oppinion ? Oh God "her in doors is calling, again

 

[dave_oddballs]

i find that if you clean your filter a few times a year then every time you do it you would get a good idea of the condition of your media. if you get it out, rinse it in tank water, and it looks perfectly fine, i think you would be silly to go buy more, just because it said you should in a book or on a back of a packet. in the same way as if you was cleaning your filter, found a majority of it to be disintegrating, obviously you would change it. i think its common sense really. i have the 2 eheim 2080's and the fluval fx5, got the eheims with the tank and also got a brand new eheim 2080 media kit with it aswel, which i filled the fx5 with, the blue sponge's clean easily, the white polishing pads less so, but as mentioned they should be changed every so often anyway. if you clean out your filter, or change media more often than needed your more likely to kill/damage your fish than if you were to leave it a bit longer than you should. i feel its better running multiple filters like i do as i clean one at a time, like i will clean out one, wait another 3 months until the cleaned filter has built back up then clean the next and so on.....
i think i will encounter problems as i plan on changing all of the flexible eheim and fluval pipes over to solid pvc pipes, to do this id have to disconnect all the filters at the same time for a number of hours, still haven't thought of a safe way to do it, hence why it hasn't been done!

 

[raptorrex]

ok got the reply from Eheim.DE

Thank you for your email. The surface of the filter media (in the main the substrat or substrat pro) is very porous. So you will have many, many place for the bacteria at his filter media. After a few weeks the dirt added the surface more and more. It is possible to wash out a little bit of this dirt but not all. After a few times washing out the filter media you will have a smaller surface for the bacteria.



This is the reason why we recommend to change the filter media after a few times washing out.



I hope this information is helpful for you.



If you have further questions please do not hesitate to contact us again.



Mit freundlichen Grüssen / Yours faithfully



i.A. Cornelia Veith

Service



EHEIM GmbH & Co. KG

Plochinger Strasse 54

D-73779 Deizisau

GERMANY

right. ok so now we know its just sales hype.

in emails or phone calls, Eheim have offered no real reason to change your media (except improving their bank balances). so i see no reason the change the "media lasts till it falls apart". consensus this forum has always held.

lol, funny, after all that.