Diy Panchax (killifish)

[Ludwig Venter]

Just wondering…. Since some Panchax fish lay their eggs in the sub strata and the eggs have to be dried out for a coupla weeks before water is added for hatching, certainly, these eggs can be mailed in an ordinary envelope during the dry phase (like brine shrimp eggs) and I’ll be able to hatch them on this side??......

Anyone got some dry eggs to mail??… I’m keen to try this.

 

[Ludwig Venter]

Dry eggs Huh!!?? (bumpin)

 

[kj23502]

There is a subform off the oddballs that deals specifically with killifish. You could pm a mod to see if they could move this topic there??



I coulda swore this was in the oddball section a few hours ago??? my bad

 

[BigC]

Just wondering…. Since some Panchax fish lay their eggs in the sub strata and the eggs have to be dried out for a coupla weeks before water is added for hatching, certainly, these eggs can be mailed in an ordinary envelope during the dry phase (like brine shrimp eggs) and I’ll be able to hatch them on this side??......

Anyone got some dry eggs to mail??… I’m keen to try this.

Hey Ludwig,
Whilst I dont have any eggs on at the present time, I may be able to put you in touch with a fellow killifish enthusiast. Is Edgemead 7441 SA... anywhere near to you or within postal range. No good posting eggs etc that distance for just experimental purposes.
Regards
BigC

 

[Ludwig Venter]

Ah! Big C... waz going to bump this one until I got your attention..... But seriously.... do you think it will work...... Imagine the marketing possibilities....

 

[BigC]

But seriously.... do you think it will work...... Imagine the marketing possibilities....

Just run by me exactly whats in your head Lud...As regards to what you are getting at here. Then I will give you an answer, I kinda think I know what your on about but I'm not quite sure.
Regards
BigC

 

[Ludwig Venter]

Being as remote as I am from all big centres, (and I'm sure many other people) it is a schlepp getting hold of fish of any description, let alone the associated transport aspects etc.

Now imagine if you can get little plastic bags with fish eggs (in an envelope) and a simple recipe... e.g. just add water and this and that and rear your own fry... The customs quarentine is on live fish, but being posted to a postal address, I just collect from the post office like any other letter received...and have access to one of the rarest fish I've come accross in my region at least....

If it can work, I.m sure many people around the world would be interrested and the Panchax breeders could market eggs for export....

 

[BigC]

If it can work, I.m sure many people around the world would be interrested and the Panchax breeders could market eggs for export....

Ludwig....where have you been this past 30 odd years. This has been going on for eons. (Sorry) Through International Associations and localised specialist breeders.
Panchax types as I know them (Aplochelius types) would probably be a no no as the eggs of these species only take around 14 days to hatch. But certainly semi annuals and annual species can and do survive long postal journeys. Species and climate dependant
See my pinned transportation thread at the top of this section.
Regards
BigC

 

[Ludwig Venter]

If it can work, I.m sure many people around the world would be interrested and the Panchax breeders could market eggs for export....

Ludwig....where have you been this past 30 odd years. This has been going on for eons. (Sorry) Through International Associations and localised specialist breeders.
Panchax types as I know them (Aplochelius types) would probably be a no no as the eggs of these species only take around 14 days to hatch. But certainly semi annuals and annual species can and do survive long postal journeys. Species and climate dependant
See my pinned transportation thread at the top of this section.
Regards
BigC

The past 30 odd years I've been stranded on this very big Island where I'm basically the only enthusiast w.r.t. fishes and thus not able to discuss the latest technology & developments with knowledgable people and now that I found them, (on this forum) I may tend to ask silly questions or to (try) re-invent the wheel (beginning to get used to the idea that if I thought about that, somebody else must've done so (30 odd years ago)....Thanks for the help.

 

[BigC]

Oh dear, Sorry if I came across too strong there Ludwig, I didn't intend to be offensive or patronising in any way shape or form. You seem a little frustrated there, Fishkeeping down there cant be all that bad can it. Is sourcing equipment/fish hard or expensive or are you just looking for like minded people to share views and knowledge with. I know a guy in South Africa, (I think he's into christanity in a big way) he lives at the location above. I have an address but no email or phone contact (perhaps you could look him up in the telephone directory or online phone book) He is heavily into Nothobranchius species and may be willing to solve your problem regarding attaining eggs through the postal service. He may or may not also have knowledge of like minded souls roundabouts that you are unaware of.
Let me know if you require more details.
Again sorry if my last reply sounded like a put down. I can assure you it wasn't ment like that.
Regards
BigC

 

[Ludwig Venter]

You're extremely perceptive Big C..... Yes.... it is frustrating talking to the best of them telling me about his 7 inch neon tetras "Chinese Fighters".... "chick-lets" and mouth brooding pearl gouramis, let alone his Mystery snails stalking & catching his Rio tetras...."Saw it with his own eyes" etc. etc. Sure you can relate to that.

Had the opportunity recently to meet the girl in charge of the aquarium breeding section of the biggest zoo in Africa, (won't mention names - and obviously I was extremely excited), but was so frustrated after just talking to her on the phone (Classifying anabantioids as cichlids, cause they've also got that long (body length dorsal fin), I found an excuse to cancel the trip to not meet her. (and she gets paid a huge salary for that) and I must admit they do have an impressive display, but I'd assume all imported and not bred.

Reffering to my book collection is also not advisable as they date back to before (even) Oscars were bred commercially... (not yet bred in captivity), hence my delight at finally catching up with technology (internet) and joining this forum where most of the people talks sense.

Thanks for the offer to put me in touch, but will decline this time as my equipment (neglected due to frustration)) & not up to scratch at this time... I'll need time to revive my 40 tanks completely to get some enthusiasm back.... will let you know when I'm ready. Thanks again.

 

[Biulu]

Hi Ludwig, I can understand completely how you feel, being in a backward part of Mexico, but there is hope definitively!

I tried to get killies for a year, and was finally able to bring some eggs from Europe while I was on a business trip there. At the same time I brought artemia eggs, and that is all. I hatched the eggs in plastic containers, and have been bringing down the pH with some bogwood (in a separate set-up from which I take the water) and peat. My pH is normally 8 with a hardness of over 30.

So, as you can see, nothing sophisticated......

There will be a big forestry assembly in South Africa at the beginning of November. I don't know where you are located (the assembly will be held in Cape Town), and I could organise to get somebody to bring you some eggs. I got my eggs from a very nice guy in Germany, and some Dutch colleagues will be attending this assembly, so it won't be too much of a problem to ask him to send these eggs to one of these colleagues. What do you say?

 

[Ludwig Venter]

Wow Biulu this sounds wonderfull. but I'm way up North in Thabazimbi about 1 300km from Cape town, but I do have a sister inlaw staying in Cape Town & could maybe ask her to collect & post for me.....If any costs involved, I can prematurely transfer to her bank account for direct payment..... Suddenly I'm aspired again... please let me know how, and exactly when... Thanks for noticing......

 

[Biulu]

The assembly is from 3-7 November. I got A. australe and F. gardneri 'Jos Plateau' from him. Recommended by Colin as being good beginners species, and the nice thing about them is that they are not annuals, so no need to breed them constantly. If you have any other wishes, let me know. I can try to get them through the German Killifish Association in which I know several members.

Isn't that funny: organising from Mexico fish to be shipped to you in Africa?! I go regularly to french speaking Africa (Cameroun) but I assume that postal services are not so reliable between the different countries on the continent?

 

[BigC]

Yeah
Biulu contacted me way back when, and through dogged determination has managed to aquire a couple nice beginner varieties of fish. To which I take my hat off to her. I hope she can go on and breed these and move on up the scale to more difficult varieties. Seems dedicated.
Mexico is very close to the USA (an absolute goldmine for killifish breeders) and because of one thing and another she cannot get killifish through. Equally South America is on the doorstep with some really interesting Killifish species there. Africa where Ludwig hails from is naturally gifted with the most colourful of all killifish sp. I hope you manage to aquire some stock Ludwig and maybe you can go on to become a big killifish enthusiast. breeding thm outside in a natural way would be something to behold.
Lets know how you get on
Regards
BigC