150G Stocking

[kizno1]

Ill have a look into thread fins then

you should just keep one and try to get a female as they get shorter threads but otherwise look the same.

What do you mean like get a male first and then add a female later one?

so
pair rotkeil sevs
6 headstanders
4 Biotodoma Wavrini
4 BNs
pair of threadfin acara

 

[Wills]

Just a lone threadfin but try to get a female which is quite hard but see how it goes. The other option I thought of would be a chocolate cichlid which would be pretty sweet in that tank instead of the threadfin. So that would be

2 Rotkeil Sevs
1 Threadfinned Acara or 1 Chocolate Cichlid
4 Biotodoma Wavrini
6 Annostomus Ternetzi or 6/8 Spotted Headstander
4 BNs or similar small plecs.

Wills

 

[kizno1]

Just a lone threadfin but try to get a female which is quite hard but see how it goes. The other option I thought of would be a chocolate cichlid which would be pretty sweet in that tank instead of the threadfin. So that would be

2 Rotkeil Sevs
1 Threadfinned Acara or 1 Chocolate Cichlid
4 Biotodoma Wavrini
6 Annostomus Ternetzi or 6/8 Spotted Headstander
4 BNs or similar small plecs.

Wills

Wouldnt there be problems between he chocolate cichlid and the sevs? Are the Biotodoma Wavrini easy to find? and are they likely to breed?

 

[Wills]

Not heard of issues with chocs and sevs before? Most of the Biotodoma species pop up now and again just keep an eye open and yes in a group there is a chance they will breed in a comm set up but they wont be aggressive to the larger fish.

Wills

 

[kizno1]

Thanks. Ill have to think about a chocolate cichlid then. Im not sure if its worth risking the threadfin because most plases seem to say they can be quite agressive. Maybe a different type of smaller acara or i might go for 5 of the Wavrinis instead.

 

[kizno1]

Ive been doing a bit of research and most places say the Biotodoma Wavrini are quite territorial and aggressive and there best kept in pairs because 2 will pair up and bully the others. Would the goes be better?

 

[Wills]

Where did you find that? Just a bit curious as the same thing is usually said about all geophenes and its just because they have been tarred with "the cichlid brush" but if its a highly trusted/reliable source then I will consider a change of oppinion.

 

[kizno1]

I couldnt find and care sheets on them so i was looking at posts on other forums and most people said they can be aggressive and will pair up so it might not be that reliable but just though i would ask.

 

[kizno1]

Are pepper corys likely to get munched if i put them in? I think i might go for the red heads if they would work because ive liked them for a while.

 

[kizno1]

I got the tank today. I got it of ebay for £65 theres a few scratches but you get what you pay for.
The only place the tank will fit is in the garage


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So final stock is divid 30G of for the BN fry and then in the 120G side
2 rotkeil sevs
1 chocolate cichlid
5 redhead tapajo geos
3 BNs
1 banjo catfish

Does that look alright? is there anything else i could add or is that about right?

 

[Wills]

Could you not get a fry tank for underneath? If its just a fry tank it just seems a shame to cut off a foot of a big tank really....

If you stick with your plan I would def add some kind of dither in there mixing cichlids could mean that you need it.

Wills

 

[kizno1]

Wish i could but this is the only way i could get my mum to agree. Oh yh i forgot about dithers. I asked but the LFS i went to couldnt get either of the headstanders in. Would hatchets work? ive got 6 but could up them to 12 or so.

 

[snowflake311]

Personaly I think it's a waste of a tank that size to split it up. Go big or go home. Im sure you have your reasons for doing this. If it were me I would leave the big tank for big fish only and get a nice cheap used tank for the smaller fish. All you need is a 10 or 20gal for fry. You could hide that in a closet.

 

[Wills]

I have to agree with snowflake I really dont understand why splitting the tank with that extra foot would be worth it - is it for existing fry? Have you asked if you could get like an Arc 35 to go underneath?

Just thinking if its existing fry try and make a deal with your mum to let you raise these and then move them on and then leave the remaining BNs to breed in the big tank and let nature take its course.

Hatchets would be okay but in this instance you need target/dither rather than just dithers (ie fish that show it is safe) so you want stuff like columbian tetras or hemigramoides (spelling) or even silver dollars.

Wills

 

[Davo86]

I know some may not agree, but if your getting the cichlids when they are still small and you are adding enough decor to the tank, then the bns should all be fine with the other fish, and tbf the cichlids you have selected aren't the true predatory kind and if mixed when young should grow up and co-exist peacefully IMO

btw the Biotodoma wavrini are usually a non aggressive species with temperaments similar to that of Keyholes IME (the link provided has some good info on them)