would this work?

[Dwarfs]

That looks good, but zebra plecos are extremely rare and expensive, often selling for over $150 Bristle nose plecos or peckoltia species would make better choices

 

[sevs]

zebra plecos are extremely rare and expensive, often selling for over $150

oh well I just saw them in a fish handbook i have and if they cost that much I might as well buy any pleco, I mean zebra plecos look cool but not $150 cool. Still I'm not exactly sure how many of each species of charicans to add, any suggestions?

 

[freddyk]

I'm not exactly sure how many of each species of charicans to add, any suggestions?

Aside from a certain minimum for security, the choice of how many is largly personal taste. I like big groups when it comes to schoaling fish, and I wouldn't hesitate to go with 20 hatchets since you have the entire surface free, and 6 silver dollars (but I'd be enclined to start with more, as they'll be a little lost if you are getting them young).

A royal pleco would be nice in that tank too.

 

[sevs]

This is just a question and I don't mean to tick anyone off who helped me , especially freddyk and Dwarfs (thanks alot you guys have been alot of help), come up with a list that finally works with my stantards, but I realized I'm really not getting too many new fish infact I've already have all the fish on the revised list except the hatchets, dollars, and aoistos, so I was just wondering about the other end of the new world cichlids, the heavy weight aggressive cichlids. The most aggressive cichlids I've ever kept are firemouths and they are all talk anyway. I'm am still leaning towards the step up listed above but still I'm curious about any aggressive cichlid set ups. Any suggestions?

 

[Dwarfs]

With aggressive NW set ups, you would obviously have a lot less fish, maybe 2 or three large and aggressive cichlids, possibly just one

Jaguars, red devils and midas are all very aggressive, and are best kept alone or with some extremely extremely robust fish, and even those fish may fall prey to cichlids like those

 

[sevs]

What about slightly less aggressive fish such as green terrors, JD, oscars? How many of them can be contained in one tank?

 

[Dwarfs]

I've nevr kept them but I'd say maybe 2 of the smaller ones and an oscar in a 125g

 

[freddyk]

I'm a little biased on it - I'm simply not into tossing a bunch of aggressive fish that are naturally enemies into a tank together.

A pair of them in a 125 can be very cool though.

 

[sevs]

I'm a little biased on it - I'm simply not into tossing a bunch of aggressive fish that are naturally enemies into a tank together.

I believe that too which is why I've never had aggressive fish before but I have to admit that I'm curious about such fish. I wouldn't put fish together that would kill each other put I was just thinking an oscar, green terror, or jack dempsey species tank would be cool. Okay now what about slightly smaller aggressive cichlids such as convicts or salvinis? Would I be able to a few more of each fish in a 125g?

 

[sevs]

Alright I came up with a new list (go ahead and pick the crap out of it, that's why I posted it):

2x Aequidens pulcher
5x Heros efasciatus
2x Uaru amphiacanthoides

1x Pleco of some sort

 

[Dwarfs]

Looks ok to me, a few more Uarus would be ok too, they are a shoaling cichlid

Don't worry if you can't get any more, mine does great by himself

 

[sevs]

Wow that list actually works I thought for sure it would be too many large cichlids. Once I get my tank I will ask my lfs if they can order more Uarus though I hope they don't house them where Artemis (my uaru) was housed because they put her with royal knives, baby whales, and elephant-noses which nipped the heck out of her pectorical fins .

 

[freddyk]

Consider getting 6 or 7 Heros with the intention of ending up with a couple of pairs. The Uarus aren't schoaling fish, but they do live in groups, so a group of 4 of them would be nice.

I'd certainly leave the pulcher out of it, these little guys probably won't be thrilled sharing a tank with so many large cichlids.

 

[Dwarfs]

Consider getting 6 or 7 Heros with the intention of ending up with a couple of pairs. The Uarus aren't schoaling fish, but they do live in groups, so a group of 4 of them would be nice.

I'd certainly leave the pulcher out of it, these little guys probably won't be thrilled sharing a tank with so many large cichlids.

I've always thought of shoaling fish and fish gathered in groups as the same thing (they stay in a group, but don't necessarily swim in unison at all times)

 

[freddyk]

Shoaling fish live and swim in groups for the sake of safety and comfort in numbers - they do everything in these groups - live, eat, breed...

Uaru tend to hang around in groups because they're quite social and relaxed cichlids, but they still tend to pair off monogomously, and they still end up defining territories used for breeding.