Welcome to Our Community

Wanting to join the rest of our members? Feel free to sign up today.

Will Imagitarium Sand change my ph?

Discussion in 'Tropical Discussion' started by RainGamma, Sep 22, 2019.

  1. RainGamma

    RainGamma Fish Fanatic

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2019
    Messages:
    123
    Likes Received:
    5
    has anyone used this before did it change your ph?
     
  2. RainGamma

    RainGamma Fish Fanatic

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2019
    Messages:
    123
    Likes Received:
    5
    Also does anyone know any product to use to check ph?
     
  3. Fishmanic

    Fishmanic Moderator
    Staff Member Moderator Global Moderator Tank of the Month Winner!

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2013
    Messages:
    2,148
    Likes Received:
    383
    Location:
    Northeastern USA
    api ph test kit...but you should get the whole api master test kit to check ph, nitrates, nitrites and ammonia..
     
    #3 Fishmanic, Sep 22, 2019
    Last edited: Sep 22, 2019
    • Agree Agree x 1
  4. RainGamma

    RainGamma Fish Fanatic

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2019
    Messages:
    123
    Likes Received:
    5
    ok
     
  5. Back in the fold

    Back in the fold Fish Addict

    Joined:
    May 25, 2019
    Messages:
    844
    Likes Received:
    160
    Location:
    Billings Montana USA
    Not sure about the brand name of the sand you mention but there has been an awful lot of talk about sand substrates on this TFF Forum lately and the general agreement is that sand, with the exception of aragonite types, seems to be inert and does not buffer pH to any degree.
     
  6. RainGamma

    RainGamma Fish Fanatic

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2019
    Messages:
    123
    Likes Received:
    5
    So sand won’t change the ph?
     
  7. RainGamma

    RainGamma Fish Fanatic

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2019
    Messages:
    123
    Likes Received:
    5
    Only the Aragonite types will correct?
     
  8. Back in the fold

    Back in the fold Fish Addict

    Joined:
    May 25, 2019
    Messages:
    844
    Likes Received:
    160
    Location:
    Billings Montana USA
    No, it is a neutral substance.

    This is a marine substrate with a lot of limestone and seashell in it that makes the water go alkaline.
     
  9. RainGamma

    RainGamma Fish Fanatic

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2019
    Messages:
    123
    Likes Received:
    5
    okay so this product won't change my ph. I was just scared because some people said it did but I seen some reviews and said it was neutral
     
  10. Back in the fold

    Back in the fold Fish Addict

    Joined:
    May 25, 2019
    Messages:
    844
    Likes Received:
    160
    Location:
    Billings Montana USA
    Plain old sand is fine. It will not alter pH. People on this forum talk a lot about what they term play sand. The kind you might buy to build a sandbox for your kids to play in. Everyone seems to agree that it is completely neutral and everyone seems to like it very much as a substrate. One caution is that it should not be very deep. About one half inch. To clean it at weekly water changes you need not gravel vacuum it like you would gravel. Most people just swirl the vac above it to churn up any detritus and suck it out. The thing I've heard talked about a lot is that sand, or any substrate, is home to most of your tanks beneficial bacteria and should not be disturbed too much. The reason you don't want the sand too deep is to avoid anaerobic areas and hydrogen sulfide pockets. This gas, if released, WILL alter pH and possibly kill your fish.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  11. Back in the fold

    Back in the fold Fish Addict

    Joined:
    May 25, 2019
    Messages:
    844
    Likes Received:
    160
    Location:
    Billings Montana USA
    And also, most people like the look of sand as opposed to gravel. I just set up a new tank with sand and it does look very nice and much more natural.
     
  12. seangee

    seangee Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2008
    Messages:
    1,622
    Likes Received:
    220
    Location:
    Berks
    To yhe original question I guess nobody hasused it. All these answers refer to play sand. The Amazon reviews suggest it does raise pH quite dramatically with several reviewers claiming it as the cause of fish deaths.
    That would be enough for me to not use it :whistle:
     
  13. Jan Cavalieri

    Jan Cavalieri Fish Crazy
    Pet of the Month Winner!

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2019
    Messages:
    250
    Likes Received:
    36
    well this is made for aquariums - a couple of reviewers said that over time it raised their PH from 7.5 to 8.6 and it killed all his fish - I don't know maybe that is enough of a ph change to kill them. A bunch of other people notice no PH change. One notices a very slow increase of PH and suggested you just use a product (like PH down) to fix it. As far as only adding 1/2 inch of sand you'll never be able to plant anything - I think you'd need 2-3 inches (I use 3" of Florite - clay to plant).

    One reviewer said it killed all his invertebrates. Most of the reviewers mention no problems with it - nobody mentions PH so I'm assuming they didn't check for Ph changes.

    It's like the cheapest sand on the market so - not that cheap isn't good - but cheap sometimes means it lacks the quality that other brands have. Read the back of the bag and see if it mentions Ph. Buy some, let it sit in a cup for a few days and test it to see if there is a ph change or just buy a name brand sand that everybody knows won't change PH.

    Personally I don't know how they call anything black or white or any other color real sand, so obviously there are additives. I wish I could get all my fish a softer substrate (at least clay is somewhat softer) but to me sand just blows all over and is a mess to keep clean - I'd be accidentally vacuuming it up all the time. I'm sure that it looks more natural.
     
  14. essjay

    essjay Moderator
    Staff Member Moderator Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2006
    Messages:
    4,357
    Likes Received:
    355
    Location:
    UK
    The simplest thing to do is test it yourself. Use two tubs and put the sand in the bottom of one of them. Fill both up with water. Test the pH of both every day for several days and compare. If the sand-water pH increases compared to the water without sand, you'll know it's the sand that's doing it. If the tubs show the same pH as each other after several days, it won't affect the tank pH.
     
    • Like Like x 2
  15. RainGamma

    RainGamma Fish Fanatic

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2019
    Messages:
    123
    Likes Received:
    5
    Someone said it’s synthetic. What does that mean. He just says it’s better because it won’t cloud the water as much
     

Share This Page

Search tags for this page

dolomite sand mail