White Spot - Opinions Urgently Needed!

[millie1]

im fuming... my tank is treated like flipping royaly and the living creatures within are too

yet i still have white spot - again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

because i have clown loaches - i know they are prone but i took the chance anyhow!!!

i have treatment.... i do regular water changes etc.... my stats are fine.. nitrite ammonia yadda yadda....

i have no spre tank but i have an hour to get my a55 to the LFS (are theyeven open today???!?!) - and get aspare tank and get it set up for a quarantine tank.......(mature filter can be used as kick start)




help?!

 

[Truck]

tank size and stats (yes you say there fine but my opinion probably differs from yours on what is fine.)

go buy some white spot treatment remove any carbon or zeolite from the filter, and raise the temp to 28 degrees, and treat as appropriate

 

[Ren&Stumpy]

Dont use whitespot treatment on the Clown loaches they cannot stand it use Aquarium salt at half the stated doseage and put heat up to 30C slowly.

i found that the best way to treat whitespot on Clowns and many others agree heat and salt method is best the heat speeds up the life cycle of the ich and the salt kills it treat for 14-21 days to make sure and then return tank to normal temp slowly. During water changes remember to replace the salt removed in the change. so say a 50% water change replace 50% of the initial salt dose.

Also increase airation in the tank with airstone or surface agitation as the heat will remove oxygen from the water. loaches can tollerate the salt treatment if done at half does but look for signs of stress and if see any stop treatments

 

[Truck]

when you say salt do you mean epsom salt? or marine salt? just to help the OP out

 

[millie1]

but i dont particularly want the whole tank treated as they are showing no signs?!

do i get another tank now (i will get one anyhow as i know i need one) or do i just treat them all???

 

[Truck]

treat them all as whitespot is a parasite and can lurk in gravel and attack exsisting fish as it is a parasite, so the little modules stay in the gravel they hatch and go and infect more fish.

 

[OldMan47]

Millie, if you don't treat all the fish at once, don't bother treating any. The parasites won't much care which fish they started on and will be back in force. To better understand ich, there is an educational link in my signature area with a description of the ich life cycle and the treatments that work for it.

 

[millie1]

ok thanks

if i remove the now infected clown loach - and treat them like someone said - without the normal treeatment....(isolate them?)

and then treeat the main tank with the proper treatment - will tht be a safer way

thanks

 

[Ren&Stumpy]

when you say salt do you mean epsom salt? or marine salt? just to help the OP out

i said Aquarium Salt, epsom salts will not do anything apart from make the fish regular in the bowels lol

but i dont particularly want the whole tank treated as they are showing no signs?!

do i get another tank now (i will get one anyhow as i know i need one) or do i just treat them all???

will have to treat whole tank also gravel vac every couple days with a small water change to remove any water bourne parasites that have hatched from gravel.

I do a 25% change every couple days witha big gravel vac and that usually does the trick after 2-3weeks.

treat them all as whitespot is a parasite and can lurk in gravel and attack exsisting fish as it is a parasite, so the little modules stay in the gravel they hatch and go and infect more fish.

ok thanks

if i remove the now infected clown loach - and treat them like someone said - without the normal treeatment....(isolate them?)

and then treeat the main tank with the proper treatment - will tht be a safer way

thanks

makes no difference if treating two tanks may aswell just treat the one tank with the same treatment but thats your choice one which treatment to use etc

 

[millie1]

ok - it was just taht the others arnt showing any signs - obviously i will treat them but i thought it may speed up the treatment process with a separate tank

 

[OldMan47]

A separate tank will make no difference. The treatment always takes as long as it takes. Most of the treatment time turns out to be the time spent making sure that the ich parasites are really dead and you haven't left any behind to re-infect the fish. It would be far better to treat a few extra days than cut things short and have to start over again.

 

[millie1]

ok thanks


am starting treatment now

will do a water change then start the treatment now

my temp is currently 24 - should i put this up slightly as well?

 

[Ren&Stumpy]

ok - it was just taht the others arnt showing any signs - obviously i will treat them but i thought it may speed up the treatment process with a separate tank

ich will only show in a fish that has been stressed in some way really. The other fish in the tank would show no signs of it if they are not stressed. Stress is the key factor in most fish illness it lowers their immune systems so although they show no signs they will still be in contact with it and could contract it.

Clowns are notorious at gettng stressed and subsequently ich rears it ugly head

 

[kribensis12]

In my OP, Salt on Whitespot is a waste of time. It can take many days to work, if it does work. I use the same medicine everytime whitespot breaksout( which is NEVER). I use CopperSafe, the parasite dissappears in 2 days. I dont belive Loaches are very tolerant of the drugs , but it sure does a fine job. I havent had whitespot in the last year.

 

[millie1]

yep tbh im not taking the chance again - this is the 2nd time - i may just rehome them when they have been fully treated

i dont want my other fish getting this