Which River Rock Is Better? [POLL]

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...and it is a vanity project cos he wants the scaping to look more attractive to him, nicer to look at...he isn't really doing it for the fish...

An aquarium is not there to look pretty to you, it is not a lounge/bedroom ornament....
I appreciate your concern for fish welfare, but I can't completely agree with this. Of course it's there to look pretty to him, and if making it so is a vanity project, then we're all guilty. That's the whole reason most of us keep fish in aquariums. If the first, last, and only thing we care about is the welfare of fish, we would leave them in the wild. Wild fish don't need us to be their guardians; they just want to be left alone (with the exception of endangered species who are losing their habitat, and very few of us are equipped to truly help those).

Making fish live in a little box is a huge responsibility, yes, and many don't take that responsibility seriously enough. I'm with you there. Sometimes our efforts to beautify their homes can cause temporary discomfort to the fish, but so does our decision to keep them in the first place. As long as it's temporary, they'll most likely be OK. I doubt that the fish in my tank have any idea that they aren't in a real rice paddy, if fish even think about that sort of thing. But most of those fish were wild-caught, and they sure didn't like it at first.

Rocky, my advice is to make your tank beautiful enough to make you happy, while minimizing stress to the fish. There are a lot of ways to do that. You're going to make some mistakes; try not to make the same one twice. I think you'll get there.
 
I think I can compromise... I am still going to re-scape but maybe in a different way that will be less stressfull and take "less" time...

I will do the re-scape in four segments. First I will take everything out besides the sand and then add more sand and then add everything back in.

A few weeks later I will replace half of the dragon rock with river rocks and then for the third segment another few weeks after the second segment I will replace all the other dragon rocks with river rocks... And finally for the fourth segment I will add in all the otger plants I want.

This should keep stress and time levels down
 
I appreciate your concern for fish welfare, but I can't completely agree with this. Of course it's there to look pretty to him, and if making it so is a vanity project, then we're all guilty. That's the whole reason most of us keep fish in aquariums. If the first, last, and only thing we care about is the welfare of fish, we would leave them in the wild. Wild fish don't need us to be their guardians; they just want to be left alone (with the exception of endangered species who are losing their habitat, and very few of us are equipped to truly help those).

Making fish live in a little box is a huge responsibility, yes, and many don't take that responsibility seriously enough. I'm with you there. Sometimes our efforts to beautify their homes can cause temporary discomfort to the fish, but so does our decision to keep them in the first place. As long as it's temporary, they'll most likely be OK. I doubt that the fish in my tank have any idea that they aren't in a real rice paddy, if fish even think about that sort of thing. But most of those fish were wild-caught, and they sure didn't like it at first.

Rocky, my advice is to make your tank beautiful enough to make you happy, while minimizing stress to the fish. There are a lot of ways to do that. You're going to make some mistakes; try not to make the same one twice. I think you'll get there.
Thank you! You said exactly what I was thinking about the comment made on aquariums not being pieces of decor but I just didnt want to say anything cause I was done explaining myself at the time.
 
Give it time, as I suggested earlier

The parents are ready, willing, and able...let the tank mature a bit more (as well as the M/F), and Nature will take it's course
 
Give it time, as I suggested earlier

The parents are ready, willing, and able...let the tank mature a bit more (as well as the M/F), and Nature will take it's course
I'm giving it more time... It will be about a month or so before I decide to replace some of the rock. But hopefully this week I will get the extra sand in at least...
 
I think I can compromise... I am still going to re-scape but maybe in a different way that will be less stressfull and take "less" time...

I will do the re-scape in four segments. First I will take everything out besides the sand and then add more sand and then add everything back in.

A few weeks later I will replace half of the dragon rock with river rocks and then for the third segment another few weeks after the second segment I will replace all the other dragon rocks with river rocks... And finally for the fourth segment I will add in all the otger plants I want.

This should keep stress and time levels down
I would just do it all at once honestly. Other people may have better insight or thoughts though
 
Just curious, in the context of this thread how often do others redo/re-scape their tanks. I for example have two display tanks upstairs and I redo them, deep clean, about once about every 6 months to about a year and this when I re-design them, is this typical, excessive, or not enough in your opinion. My most sensitive fish are my ornate tetras and I would say they are pale and skittish for a couple of days afterward a rework, my angels just don't seem to care.
 
Anytime I need with the tank heavily the black dots on the tails of my gudgeons fade out for a bit and then they come back really strong afterwards... Especially after dumping water into the tank due to the high flow rate.
 
I would just do it all at once honestly. Other people may have better insight or thoughts though
I feel like it would take a VERY long time to do it all at once... What if it takes two to three hours to rescape? I don't want the fish in the bucket for that long... I'd rather to short segments than chance it with a very long process...
 
My tank setups usually last 3-5 years before I redo them, but that's often as much out of boredom as out of any real biological need.
 

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