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Hello, I've not been here for ages I know! Life has just been busy - one of those things :)

I'm more or less keeping on top of 3 tanks now I have my 300 litre Mbuna a 30 litre shrimp tank and my 100 litre cube. And its the latter I need a bit of help with, it was home to a group of Red Eye Red Tail Puffers but over the last year they have gradually died off, I got them in 2020 and my understanding is 3-5 years so I don't think it was anything untoward - they did become harder and harder to feed as all they would eat was frozen blood shrimp in the end totally ignoring snails and shrimp, to the point they lived with a colony of cherry shrimp and ramshorn snails... they did also have a group of Glowlight Danios in there but I've rehomed them to a friend - I had to totally strip this tank down this week due to a blue green algae outbreak that came from nowhere. Really annoying stinky stuff!

Anyway the tank is rescaped with lots of Frodo stones and I'm planting it out with Trident Ferns, Ludwigia Super Red, loads of Crypts and Lobelia Cardinalis Mini - as I look at the tank I do want to get some small Anubias in there too think that could work well. The rock work needs a bit of shuffling too but thats fine.

I'm at a bit of a loss what to do with the tank though so wondered what you thought and just wanted somewhere to write some ideas down as they come.

The tank is a 100 litre 60cm cube and its filtered by a Biomaster 250, substrate is a mix of fine sand and Wio Eonian, quite heavily planted and I grow emergent plants out of it (only one sprig of Pothos left after the Blue Green breakout). My water is pretty hard, it moves around through the year but 15gh is a pretty good rule of thumb.

I've been wondering about some Gourami species as some go quite hard - the red variant of the Thick Lipped Gourami is probably a good call. One of the species of Sparkling/Croaking Gourami are from harder parts too but I forget which one. I've seen some Rummynose Rasboras locally which could be cool and some Albino Cherry Barbs which look good too.

I'm not much into livebearers but contemplated that to some degree. I wondered about trying Indian Glassfish if I could find them but not 100% on that.

Then I know my hardwater isnt perfect for them but I have been wondering about some dwarf cichlids like Laetacara or Nannacara, if I got them locally then I suppose ethically I'd argue they stand their best chances with me vs less informed customers but its a thin argument... similarly any of the really commercially bred fish like X Ray Tetras or some of the Corys are so removed from their wild counterparts I've heard people having good success with them too.

It is a blank canvas though so if you've any ideas let me know

Wills
 
Hey, Wills. Good to hear from you. I've never kept rummynose rasboras (an Inle biotope is definitely on my "someday" list). How active are they? Rasboras really seem to run the whole range from couch potatoes to ADHD super-athletes. I bet the glowlight danios felt a little crowded in there. A nice, big school of cherry barbs would be nice in a darkish, shaded, heavily planted tank, though I personally don't care for the albinos. Some cherries, a pair of thick lipped gourami, and a few shrimp or loaches to hang out in all those rocks would look nice.

I hear many of the killis do well in small tanks and hardish water. @GaryE ?
 
You've enjoyed that mbuna tank, and I think you need something small and territorial. You must like complex behaviour. The hardwater is the issue.

There are hardwater killies sporadically available in Europe. I'm told really good stores sometimes carry Aphanius mento, the iridescent toothcarp. It's rare in North America, but I have seen it and it was a very cool fish to figure out. A bit aggressive, and for a single species tank, but pretty as can be. It would be a good challenge.

I don't buy the idea that Amazon fish have adapted to hard water during their time in the hobby. It's usually said about fish that are easy to breed in large numbers, and that the hobby therefore sees as disposable. If stress on their kidneys kills them a little early, big deal. They're cheap and easy to replace. To me, that's a poor argument, and the story they have adapted to hard water is us being told what we want to hear.

I don't know a lot of gobies, but some of them are interesting and some come from hardwater regions.

Australian blue eyes aren't to be overlooked. I have a small group of Pseudomugil gertrudae, a species that tolerates a wide range of water conditions, and the fin displays are a delight. The whole group is very cool. They're easy to find in stores here, as are some of their relatives. Nice subdued colours, lovely patterning and great behaviour in groups of around 10. They also breed easily.
 
Thanks everyone - so I took a trip to my local Maidenhead Aquatics (decent aquatic chain in the UK) and they had some Orange Thick Lipped Gourami and some Rummy Nose Rasboras so I've picked up 5 Gourami and 7 Rasboras (all they had). So essentially a Lake Inle Biotope :) The Amano Shrimp I have break it but not too fussy as there is a river shrimp that looks essentially the same - annoyingly if I'd had the fish first I'd probably have tried to go Biotope correct on the plants too...

I'm a bit confused on the Gourami as I always thought they were a proper dwarf species and was sure 5-7cm maximum but some sites I've seen since getting back are saying 9cm - but then the recommended tank sizes are small by comparison. If I go purely by the recommended tank sizes we are ok though - seriously fish suggests a 74x30x30cm tank and I'm providing a 60x50x45cm - Interested to hear from anyone thats kept these before.

Wills
 
Thick lipped gouramis aren't dwarfs to me, but the line is arbitrary. They are larger.

At one point, before the mutation was marketed, they were hard to find here. I hunted them for years before I got some. I found them very aggressive, but again, that's a fuzzy line.
 
Thick lipped gouramis aren't dwarfs to me, but the line is arbitrary. They are larger.

At one point, before the mutation was marketed, they were hard to find here. I hunted them for years before I got some. I found them very aggressive, but again, that's a fuzzy line.
I think it’s because they sometimes get referred to as red honey gourami - my gourami knowledge isn’t amazing so bit miffed with myself.

If the group need thinning or we need a longer tank it can be on the cards for sure.

With the rummy noses I have a feeling I have seven females as all are silver - though they look a bit more like Red Dwarf Rasboras than rummy noses atm…
 
With the rummy noses I have a feeling I have seven females as all are silver - though they look a bit more like Red Dwarf Rasboras than rummy noses atm…
Hiya Wills! I have 11 Rummynose at the moment in my 90L. The majority of which I bred myself. Full colouration will take a while in this species. It took around 5 months for the first signs of colour to appear for sexing them. The majority of Sawbwa sold in the UK seem to be all males sadly, colourful fish = sales as I got told by my LFS :confused: . I only got females through an online store based in Kent, but they arrived as small juveniles.

 
Hiya Wills! I have 11 Rummynose at the moment in my 90L. The majority of which I bred myself. Full colouration will take a while in this species. It took around 5 months for the first signs of colour to appear for sexing them. The majority of Sawbwa sold in the UK seem to be all males sadly, colourful fish = sales as I got told by my LFS :confused: . I only got females through an online store based in Kent, but they arrived as small juveniles.


That’s interesting! Thanks for the heads up I’m not really a breeder so won’t mind all males as long as it won’t lead to them killing each other off… I do want to get a few more though so might wait a while and see what I get.

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This is the tank in its current state for any interested. Want a few more smaller rocks on the left bit too much of a wall at the moment.

Ordered some red root floaters too some duck weed in there now but not much (for now…).
 
Looks amazing! Sawbwa do love floating plants. The way they breed involves floating plant/algae islands in the wild. I achieved this in my 90L through Water Lettuce and L.sessiliflora. The males do love a good sparr IME. I did loose 1-2 fish from it sadly. But the fault was mine. I only had 4 males to 1 female at the time. I did also find younger males were chased by older males as they thought they were females because of the similar colouring :lol:
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What do people think I should do with the gourami? From what I’ve read it’s 4inch maximum rather than a set size like some species with closer to 3 inches being more typical?

I’m unsure what to do - the biggest tank I could go for is 90cm but in all honesty I don’t really want to do that…
 
Getting annoyingly taken with them…
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