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I just stepped outside for a smoke and caught a hummingbird moth on my petunias. Very cool. View attachment 372031
They are VERY cool! LOL! When I lived in Florida a bunch of the critters came in to so whatever on some plants. I got some pictures and initially thought they were humming birds until I saw the antenna in the photos.

Ever get visited by a Luna Moth?
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They are VERY cool! LOL! When I lived in Florida a bunch of the critters came in to so whatever on some plants. I got some pictures and initially thought they were humming birds until I saw the antenna in the photos.

Ever get visited by a Luna Moth?
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I've only seen one in the wild. Beautiful for sure. I'm a little surprised the hummingbird moth was out. The last few nights have dipped down to the upper 40's a bit cool.
 
It's our 48th wedding anniversary today. Celebrations are on hold as my husband has a hospital appointment at 5.10 this afternoon and we have no idea how long it will take or when we'll be back. Bad timing!
I'm sorry you don't get to celebrate properly, and I hope all goes well with your husband.
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It's our 48th wedding anniversary today. Celebrations are on hold as my husband has a hospital appointment at 5.10 this afternoon and we have no idea how long it will take or when we'll be back. Bad timing!
Happy anniversary!
 
Reading Don Quixote in my continuing efforts to catch up on some of the classics I somehow missed as a kid. One question keeps occurring to me, and I hope this doesn’t offend anyone:

Why did someone publish this drivel, let alone call it one of the great classics? The story is ridiculous without being at all funny, and the writing is atrocious. I am going to finish it just because I feel like I should.

Am I missing something?
 
Reading Don Quixote in my continuing efforts to catch up on some of the classics I somehow missed as a kid. One question keeps occurring to me, and I hope this doesn’t offend anyone:

Why did someone publish this drivel, let alone call it one of the great classics? The story is ridiculous without being at all funny, and the writing is atrocious. I am going to finish it just because I feel like I should.

Am I missing something?
You are.
I found it quite funny. You have to have an understanding of the society being lampooned. At this point in history, you would need a familiarity with its context. The world has changed, although people haven't. If you get into any literature over 50 years old, it takes a little extra work, and empathy for lost worlds.
I love art museums, and have taken a long time to understand a lot of the older paintings. The kind of Christian symbolism a 16th century peasant would have understood flies right by me, as that's not my world. I've read the Bible, as it helps in understanding how people thought back then, but it's a book to me, not a lifestyle guide as it was to the classic painters and writers. I used to look at the paintings very literally, and miss what they were communicating. It took me time to learn their language, and why the subjects would have mattered. I've visited paintings 30 years after I first saw and was bored by them and been fascinated as what I had learned in the meantime let me see them more as a person of their time might have. I had to develop a background to catch the message - the small picture became a big picture then.
It's the same with literature. First we (hopefully) collect knowledge of our own times and concerns. Then we might read enough history and literature, or watch enough serious documentaries that we begin to "get" things we didn't earlier in our lives.
Some people read literally forever, and never catch the humour and cheekiness in a book like Don Quixote. Their brains aren't wired that way - if someone says a math equation is beautiful I shut up and smile, because my brain doesn't go there. But you're reading a book published in 1605, and their world was more science fiction to us than any science fiction writer has invented. Time travel takes preparation. There are a lot of older books I just didn't get when I was 25 that I think are brilliant now.

If you can't 'feel' it as a classic, be it visual art, music or writing, put it down and return to it in ten years.
 
You are.
I found it quite funny. You have to have an understanding of the society being lampooned. At this point in history, you would need a familiarity with its context. The world has changed, although people haven't. If you get into any literature over 50 years old, it takes a little extra work, and empathy for lost worlds.
I love art museums, and have taken a long time to understand a lot of the older paintings. The kind of Christian symbolism a 16th century peasant would have understood flies right by me, as that's not my world. I've read the Bible, as it helps in understanding how people thought back then, but it's a book to me, not a lifestyle guide as it was to the classic painters and writers. I used to look at the paintings very literally, and miss what they were communicating. It took me time to learn their language, and why the subjects would have mattered. I've visited paintings 30 years after I first saw and was bored by them and been fascinated as what I had learned in the meantime let me see them more as a person of their time might have. I had to develop a background to catch the message - the small picture became a big picture then.
It's the same with literature. First we (hopefully) collect knowledge of our own times and concerns. Then we might read enough history and literature, or watch enough serious documentaries that we begin to "get" things we didn't earlier in our lives.
Some people read literally forever, and never catch the humour and cheekiness in a book like Don Quixote. Their brains aren't wired that way - if someone says a math equation is beautiful I shut up and smile, because my brain doesn't go there. But you're reading a book published in 1605, and their world was more science fiction to us than any science fiction writer has invented. Time travel takes preparation. There are a lot of older books I just didn't get when I was 25 that I think are brilliant now.

If you can't 'feel' it as a classic, be it visual art, music or writing, put it down and return to it in ten years.
That makes a lot of sense. It's the same listening to old music: It's a portal to a different time and place, and that's part of what is so enriching about it. Perhaps I'm just not in a good place for time travel at the moment. :)

I also wonder if a lot of the atrocious writing, especially the impenetrable, multi-page run-on sentences, are just the particular translation I am reading. Perhaps even that is part of the parody that I am missing. The good Don is constantly referring back to the overwrought, chivalric romance novels with which he is obsessed, and I suspect that much of the terrible writing is simply lampooning those books.

You give good advice, and you make me glad that I asked. I think I'll come back to this book once I am able to look into the time and place from which it comes. I'm just not there right now.
 
I've taught writing a lot, and when it comes to endless convoluted sentences - in some cultures that's what they strive for. They are often disgusted by leaner English writing. Not being flowery and complex is seen as being kind of stupid. Mandarin speakers often look at our writing like we're playing piano with hammers. I would read writing from Mandarin speakers and sit wondering if they'd ever get to the point.

Even within English - back in my community group creative writing workshop incarnation, I used to work with an elder writer who'd been blacklisted in the McCarthy years, and had given up. He decided to make a comeback 30 years later and started working with a bunch of younger writers. The type of prose that had sold when he was 25 wasn't interesting anymore, and it took him a long time to come around to the style that people wanted to read. He was able to adjust and got 2 books published before he died, but his style was still hard for younger writers. It had been hot stuff in 1948.

I imagine Don Quixote could be the translation. I read a Czech novel famous for its humour once, and it was awful. Not a smile in it. Ten years later I saw a different translation and read a page, and knew I had gold in my hands. It was a very funny and sharp satire in that version.
Translation is really hard to get right.

I'm a history nerd so I often like old texts and time travel. For many years, I didn't like Shakespeare, and then suddenly I got what was going on and love his work now. We're supposed to teach it in High School when no one has the life experience to understand the good stuff in there. We really have it backwards. Maybe we should have massive free online education for people over 50 to give them a lot to think about when they retire. There are so many books I liked when I was 20, but as I reread them now, I'm floored by what I missed. I was a clueless young fellow compared to what I catch as an old geezer.

It's like music. There are a lot of recordings I heard when my head wasn't there - in the mood I was in they sounded awful. But in the mood I'm in now, I really like some of them. Next year, I could find them annoying.

Old fish books. Innes was a fine writer, but some of the others read like they were written by male guppies.
 
I have a graveyard across the street from me, and it has a roadway that parallels the street. Yesterday morning I saw a young woman jogging on that road, headphones on and in her own world, keeping a really good pace. She was totally unaware that ten feet behind her, two very small, young deer were running with her, watching her and keeping the exact pace all the way across the cemetery.
There are moments you wish you could video. It would have been a great clip.
 

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