Using Hot Water From The Tap For Water Changes...

[spectrum]

I used to use the kettle for my small tank to heat the water but now I simply use tap water because most water conditioners nowadays remove heavy metals anyway.

 

[raptorrex]

cold water can shock the fish.


cheers

at less than 30%, it will make no difference. indeed, there is much, empiric, evidence, to suggest that its not only, "safe", but fish, enjoy, benefit from it. I realise the problems of using empiric evidence. however, a good look at nature, will show that fish, hardly, ever have a stable environment. if it be temperature, Ph or food, avalibility

 

[plecostomus-mad]

i used to use the hot water from the boiler. since doing some research i only use cold water and i place a 300w heater in there for 20 mins and its upto temp for my fish

takes a little longer but worth it in my opinion

 

[raptorrex]

i used to use the hot water from the boiler. since doing some research i only use cold water and i place a 300w heater in there for 20 mins and its upto temp for my fish

takes a little longer but worth it in my opinion

why do you consider it worth it?
what can you do, that de-chlorinator/water conditioner can't?
what evidence did you find in your research?

I've heard the "copper problem" for years. yet nobody has ever offered a single shred of evidence, any problems have been caused.
if you use, descent, water conditioner, copper can not hurt your fish. because there will be none there, not bound! and this last comment is incontrovertible, not just my thoughts. that is unless you are suggesting that the makers and sellers of de-chlorinator/water conditioners are, telling fibs, when they say they bind heavy metals.

 

[Essjay27 142]

The reason I don't use hot water that has been stored in the tank in the airing cupboard isn't because of the risk of copper. It's because of what can get into the header tank in the attic. I was always told never to use hot water for cooking for this same reason. People have been known to have dead birds and even rats in there.
We had a wasps nest in the attic, the man came and sprayed insecticide to kill them. Then the washer in the header tank needed replacing, and the tank had a lot of dead wasps floating in it. Were they healthy wasps or were they covered in insecticide? If they had been contaminated, I realise there would only have been a very tiny amount of insecticide that ended up in my tank, but I'd prefer not to take the risk.

 

[steelhealr]

This probably won't add too much to the discussion, however, our house built in '98 has all PVC water pipes. There is no copper (or at least major amounts) in our water system. I've done water changes using tap water mixing both hot and cold to the right temp right off the faucet. I remove water, add conditioner and replace the water immediately. Never lost a fish after a water change.

It would be interesting if you could get a copper test kit and test the water yourself to see what comes out first and then after running the water, doing it with both hold and cold on different days. Over here a Salifert Copper test kit runs about $23. SH

 

[stoneagedinosaur]

Good point!

 

[plecostomus-mad]

i used to use the hot water from the boiler. since doing some research i only use cold water and i place a 300w heater in there for 20 mins and its upto temp for my fish

takes a little longer but worth it in my opinion

why do you consider it worth it?
what can you do, that de-chlorinator/water conditioner can't?
what evidence did you find in your research?

I've heard the "copper problem" for years. yet nobody has ever offered a single shred of evidence, any problems have been caused.
if you use, descent, water conditioner, copper can not hurt your fish. because there will be none there, not bound! and this last comment is incontrovertible, not just my thoughts. that is unless you are suggesting that the makers and sellers of de-chlorinator/water conditioners are, telling fibs, when they say they bind heavy metals.

i have no specific evidence. but i found out that using water stored in sources such as a copper boiler,holding tanks etc,'may' increase the chance of introducing metals,such as copper into the aquarium. whether this is true or not is not the point for me. its better to avoid contamination where possible in my opinion.

why is it worth it?...

on a personal level it is. id prefer to warm the water a little first to avoid the chances of temp shock and it makes me feel better to give them water the same temp as they have been living in.

i didnt say i can do better than the water conditioner. i still add it during water changes.

 

[raptorrex]

i have no specific evidence. but i found out that using water stored in sources such as a copper boiler,holding tanks etc,'may' increase the chance of introducing metals,such as copper into the aquarium. whether this is true or not is not the point for me. its better to avoid contamination where possible in my opinion.

why is it worth it?...

on a personal level it is. id prefer to warm the water a little first to avoid the chances of temp shock and it makes me feel better to give them water the same temp as they have been living in.

i didnt say i can do better than the water conditioner. i still add it during water changes.

I take your point on water changes, we just have differing views.
i still don't understand why anybody worries about copper, if they use water conditioner? i can see how they might " I just want to do it". but then, when stating their view, "I just want to do it". is the only reason they/you can give. stating copper worries, just does not stack up. that is, unless the claim is water conditioners don't work (on the metal binding front).

 

[GuppyGoddess]

Well, I use hot water from the tap b/c it's easier than heating water in a bucket. I know that it may be wrong, but just cross my fingers that the water conditioner I use gets rid of the extra metals in the water. The tea kettle idea is a good one. . .I think I'll try that! (I usually do 25% water changes, but my tanks are small so that amount may shock my bettas if cold water is used!)

 

[Paradise3]

When i do a water change (which i have recently cut down on) i take about 3gals out of a 12gal tank how much percentage am i taking out? Sorry not a mathmatician really. I have always used cold water to top the tank up after a water change but when i truly clean the tank out (which needs doing right about now) i boild the kettle and use a mix of hot and cold.

Xxx~misscosmo~xxX

 

[VickiandKev]

When i do a water change (which i have recently cut down on) i take about 3gals out of a 12gal tank how much percentage am i taking out? Sorry not a mathmatician really. I have always used cold water to top the tank up after a water change but when i truly clean the tank out (which needs doing right about now) i boild the kettle and use a mix of hot and cold.

Xxx~misscosmo~xxX

You're taking out 25%


I always use hot water from the tap. I rely on my water conditioner

Never had a problem though, having said that!

 

[Paradise3]

Thanks it's good to know it's no more than 30%.

Xxx~misscosmo~xxX

 

[stoneagedinosaur]

Thanks it's good to know it's no more than 30%.

Xxx~misscosmo~xxX

Excuse my ignorance - but... why?