I re-read over 4 pages of posts on my last thread and thought I would try to update everybody so they can see where I stand now (It's not all good)
MY PLAN THIS WEEK: Fill 7, 5 gallon buckets with water today with the evil Python, allow them to air out before doing a 100% teardown and refill of Tank B on Friday. This ultimately worked on both tank A and C. So hoping it works on tank B. Two of the fish (with eyes big enough to see the whites) have reddish whites so their eyes are obviously irritated. Wonder when I can get off this chemical train. Now keep in mind - the immediate cause is the Ammonia in the tap water which this week is testing at 1.5 ppm. As long as they do that I have no control over the ammonia in my tank except to neutralize it - which, of course, is slowing down the cycling. I believe that if these three tanks would get full re-cycled again it would automatically take care of the 1.5 Ammonia after a water change but right now when I'm getting readings of 8 ppm (likely do to some big poopers in an overstocked tank) I have to get the ammonia down. As soon as I'm done with this I plan on buying yet a third 29 gallon tank to remove the pressure from those large fish in tank B (I'll put some small fish in with them) - use Tank C as a hospital tank as originally intended - but it's going to take 4-6 weeks for the NEW tank to cycle so I have to intervene until that is accomplished. Should have done this weeks ago but I need somebody to help me completely re-arrange that room so I can fit the 3rd Aquarium in - there is also a MAJOR outlet Shortage in every room in the house so I may take my husband's old computer offline and replace it with an Aquarium. (he has a bunch of pictures and financials that I need off of his PC, then I can wipe it if I can bear to do it. Also wanted to use it as a backup to my PC because I'm not into this "cloud" thing. Seen Terminator too many times LOL - never put all your stuff in one place - really bad idea - then one major break-in to "the cloud" and somebody has a lot of data.
Discovered that recently our City has been pumping ammonia into our water - it's supposedly the "new thing" they don't post it on their report but it's my conclusion since tap water ammonia suddenly reads 1.0 ppm to 1..5 ppm. City does not respond to emails or phone messages, and I'm callng the guy that is responsible for the report. Meaning every time I do a water change I'm actually adding a significant amount of ammonia. Not a problem if my tanks were cycled but they somehow lost their cycling. I have ALL ammonia and no nitrites or nitrates. PH varies from 6.5 to 7.5 Water hardness GH - is "eviquivalent to what is suitable to most tropical tanks." I believe it took only one drop for a color change to occur in all three tanks.
I am severely disabled and on O2 24/7 as well as - get this - 39 other medications including 2 kinds of morphine and Xanax, I likely have less than 5 yrs to live. Actually I nearly died 3 yrs ago - when I caught H1N1 and was in intensive care for 2 weeks - I was not expected to survive and it did horrible damage to my lungs. I say this to keep your suggestions realistic for a person that often is nearly bed-ridden but is gradually building up strength with all these water changes!!! I may not die soon at all. I got help from a friend when I tore down tank A (we're doing tank B this Friday). She is an experienced fishkeeper but not currently. I can only carry about 2 gallons of water and can only pour in about the last 1 gallon. She can carry 5 gallons. I have a Python known for sucking in smaller fish and it's 50' of pain in the butt. I have shorter suction/remover into buckets that I usually use. Because of my tendency to overfeed (I'm pretty much cured now) I was doing weekly 50% water fills before this sudden ammonia issue occurred. My readings were always all close to 0 with Nitrates up to 50 ppm. Just dirty water. My friend is currently without a job or she would not be able to do all of this. I have nobody else to help me. Never thought it was going to take this much trouble.
ALL tanks have Seachem clay gravel for softness, TONS of live Plants including wisteria and frogswart. Clogs filters like mad so I have intake tube sponge covers at the end of each tube and plants sometimes still manage to get in. The SMELL I've been noticing seems to mainly be coming from the plants - so I'm thinning them out, getting rid of dying stalks etc.
Oh - found Ammogone from one seller in Australia. Says he may not ship to US due to shipping costs - can't find it any other place. - will keep looking. A similar sounding (Algone) product appears to neutralize Nitrites only
Found Zeolite all over Amazon but only one that doesn't seem to be mixed with carbon and specifically mentions reducing Ammonia and refreshable and isn't specifically made for a cannister filter and ordered a cannister of it. .
Tank A 29 gallons: Issue: HIGH ammonia levels. Originally cycled with ammonia 4-6 weeks. Filter: AquaClear 50, including Ammonia remover media. Recently cleaned filter (media in tank water, but had to replace nearly decomposed sponge filter), Also added special sponge filter over the end of the intake tube, cleaned impeller and all other parts. 2 Airstones, After filter clean, next day, removed all fish. found one small dead fish - unidentifiable, did a complete tear-down, including sifting all the clay substrate and getting rid of hundreds of snails that I've been fighting. The tank is no longer cycled but ammonia is currently hovering between 0 ppm and .25 ppm, 0 Nitrites, 0 Nitrates). Waterchanged about 50% - 4 days ago. Raised ammonia to 1.5 ppm - but quickly reduced back to 0-.25 ppm depending on the day. So I think I'm getting close to it starting to cycle. Every time I stop adding AmGuard the ammonia goes up to 1.0 ppm and I have to fight to get it back down. Adding Prime and AmGuard DAILY. Concerned too many chemicals are preventing the tank from cycling.
Fish include:
2 powder blue Gourami (about 3"),
2 red/blue Gourami (about 3,5 inches)
1 dwarf blue gourami (about 2"),
5 Cherry barbs (1/2")
4 Corycats (2 inches),
2 Bluefin Algae Killifish (about 1" and skinny build),
2 Dwarf Honey Red Gourami (about 1"),
4 Chinese Algae Eaters (1", max size 4 inches, a skinny fish),
1 Moonlight Gourami (3 inches, max size 6")
2 Gold Gourami (about 1" max size 5")
2 Tetra Glofish pink (1", max size 2")
1 Blue Phantom Pleco (1/2 inch - max size 7" over several years)
Total 28 fish. doesn't appear overstocked at all right now. Many ground/night feeders. But it sure sounds like it on paper.
Tank B 29 Gallons Issue: VERY HIGH AMMONIA 8 PPM, 0 Nitrites, 0 Nitrates. Originally cycled with ammonia for 8 weeks before adding fish in May. Filter AquaClear 50, including ammonia reducing media. Cloudy water but not seriously. NO FISH have died except some initially I got from a local plant store. Currently missing a fish but it hides VERY well, it's "bigger" brother is braver and I see him daily. This tank is NOT cycling. No nitrites or nitrates. Adding Prime and AmGuard Daily - not making ANY difference, other than not allowing any fish to die.
Fish include:
1- Tan Gourami - 5 inches, wasn't supposed to be over 3".
2- Bristlenose Lomon Pleco L144: one 1", the other 1/2" excellent algae cleaners
2- Bluefin Algae eaters - rarely see these, they are keeping well hidden
2- Blue Gourami - 3" - max size 5" but one is already approaching 7" in size.
2- Blue Dwarf Gourami currently 3" unknown max size (different markings)
1- Gold Gourami; Currently 4" max size 5"
2 - Catfish unknown variety: PLUMP but about 1.5" long
2- Gold (yellow/pink) Dojo Loach: one shy, one bold but don't seem to eat much
2- Pearl Gourami: 4" (max size 6")
Total 16 fish but this appears VERY overstocked - some of the Gourami's are getting huge and there are few small fish. These fish really need a bigger tank or at least an additional tank. May be contributing to the ammonia.
Tank C: 5 Gallons
Issue : fluctuating ammonia. When I put in a high dose of AmGuard the Ammonia drops to .25 or 0. If I stop it goes right back up to 2-4ppm. Was fully cycled in 4 weeks. I then did a full tear down like we did with Tank A hoping to get the same results. Also (days later) switched filter out (this was about 2 weeks ago - keeping the biofilter from the old filter until it does cycle. Filter is an AquaClear 20 including ammonia reducing media. Crystal clear plastic tank. When I overfeed I suction excess out. Adding AmGuard and Prime daily. No nitrites or nitrates. Currently 0-.25 ammonia.(hard to tell) So it looks like the tear down may have worked - either that or the new filter. It's not cycling either - zero nitrites and nitrates or it's completely cycled - since ammonia levels are so low again but I really don't think it re-cycled.
Fish Include:
5 Golden Harlequin Rasbora: these school beautifully when alarmed - at first terrified of other fish but now comfortable.
1- "Serial killer" Zebra Danio - killed ALL his buddies, killed a large Gourmi by eating it's fins off. At the time I had no other place to put him - now I do but I will NOT purchase more of these fish only to get killed by this one. The Raspdora's school so tight when he alarms them he has given up even trying to injure them and actually tries to school with him. His behavior is MUCH calmer.
Total 6 fish - they need a much longer tank to be really happy. If I get another 29 gallon (my floor I don't think could handle a 55 gallon) I will likely introduce them to a new tank and euthanize the zebra if he kills more fish.
MY PLAN THIS WEEK: Fill 7, 5 gallon buckets with water today with the evil Python, allow them to air out before doing a 100% teardown and refill of Tank B on Friday. This ultimately worked on both tank A and C. So hoping it works on tank B. Two of the fish (with eyes big enough to see the whites) have reddish whites so their eyes are obviously irritated. Wonder when I can get off this chemical train. Now keep in mind - the immediate cause is the Ammonia in the tap water which this week is testing at 1.5 ppm. As long as they do that I have no control over the ammonia in my tank except to neutralize it - which, of course, is slowing down the cycling. I believe that if these three tanks would get full re-cycled again it would automatically take care of the 1.5 Ammonia after a water change but right now when I'm getting readings of 8 ppm (likely do to some big poopers in an overstocked tank) I have to get the ammonia down. As soon as I'm done with this I plan on buying yet a third 29 gallon tank to remove the pressure from those large fish in tank B (I'll put some small fish in with them) - use Tank C as a hospital tank as originally intended - but it's going to take 4-6 weeks for the NEW tank to cycle so I have to intervene until that is accomplished. Should have done this weeks ago but I need somebody to help me completely re-arrange that room so I can fit the 3rd Aquarium in - there is also a MAJOR outlet Shortage in every room in the house so I may take my husband's old computer offline and replace it with an Aquarium. (he has a bunch of pictures and financials that I need off of his PC, then I can wipe it if I can bear to do it. Also wanted to use it as a backup to my PC because I'm not into this "cloud" thing. Seen Terminator too many times LOL - never put all your stuff in one place - really bad idea - then one major break-in to "the cloud" and somebody has a lot of data.
Discovered that recently our City has been pumping ammonia into our water - it's supposedly the "new thing" they don't post it on their report but it's my conclusion since tap water ammonia suddenly reads 1.0 ppm to 1..5 ppm. City does not respond to emails or phone messages, and I'm callng the guy that is responsible for the report. Meaning every time I do a water change I'm actually adding a significant amount of ammonia. Not a problem if my tanks were cycled but they somehow lost their cycling. I have ALL ammonia and no nitrites or nitrates. PH varies from 6.5 to 7.5 Water hardness GH - is "eviquivalent to what is suitable to most tropical tanks." I believe it took only one drop for a color change to occur in all three tanks.
I am severely disabled and on O2 24/7 as well as - get this - 39 other medications including 2 kinds of morphine and Xanax, I likely have less than 5 yrs to live. Actually I nearly died 3 yrs ago - when I caught H1N1 and was in intensive care for 2 weeks - I was not expected to survive and it did horrible damage to my lungs. I say this to keep your suggestions realistic for a person that often is nearly bed-ridden but is gradually building up strength with all these water changes!!! I may not die soon at all. I got help from a friend when I tore down tank A (we're doing tank B this Friday). She is an experienced fishkeeper but not currently. I can only carry about 2 gallons of water and can only pour in about the last 1 gallon. She can carry 5 gallons. I have a Python known for sucking in smaller fish and it's 50' of pain in the butt. I have shorter suction/remover into buckets that I usually use. Because of my tendency to overfeed (I'm pretty much cured now) I was doing weekly 50% water fills before this sudden ammonia issue occurred. My readings were always all close to 0 with Nitrates up to 50 ppm. Just dirty water. My friend is currently without a job or she would not be able to do all of this. I have nobody else to help me. Never thought it was going to take this much trouble.
ALL tanks have Seachem clay gravel for softness, TONS of live Plants including wisteria and frogswart. Clogs filters like mad so I have intake tube sponge covers at the end of each tube and plants sometimes still manage to get in. The SMELL I've been noticing seems to mainly be coming from the plants - so I'm thinning them out, getting rid of dying stalks etc.
Oh - found Ammogone from one seller in Australia. Says he may not ship to US due to shipping costs - can't find it any other place. - will keep looking. A similar sounding (Algone) product appears to neutralize Nitrites only
Found Zeolite all over Amazon but only one that doesn't seem to be mixed with carbon and specifically mentions reducing Ammonia and refreshable and isn't specifically made for a cannister filter and ordered a cannister of it. .
Tank A 29 gallons: Issue: HIGH ammonia levels. Originally cycled with ammonia 4-6 weeks. Filter: AquaClear 50, including Ammonia remover media. Recently cleaned filter (media in tank water, but had to replace nearly decomposed sponge filter), Also added special sponge filter over the end of the intake tube, cleaned impeller and all other parts. 2 Airstones, After filter clean, next day, removed all fish. found one small dead fish - unidentifiable, did a complete tear-down, including sifting all the clay substrate and getting rid of hundreds of snails that I've been fighting. The tank is no longer cycled but ammonia is currently hovering between 0 ppm and .25 ppm, 0 Nitrites, 0 Nitrates). Waterchanged about 50% - 4 days ago. Raised ammonia to 1.5 ppm - but quickly reduced back to 0-.25 ppm depending on the day. So I think I'm getting close to it starting to cycle. Every time I stop adding AmGuard the ammonia goes up to 1.0 ppm and I have to fight to get it back down. Adding Prime and AmGuard DAILY. Concerned too many chemicals are preventing the tank from cycling.
Fish include:
2 powder blue Gourami (about 3"),
2 red/blue Gourami (about 3,5 inches)
1 dwarf blue gourami (about 2"),
5 Cherry barbs (1/2")
4 Corycats (2 inches),
2 Bluefin Algae Killifish (about 1" and skinny build),
2 Dwarf Honey Red Gourami (about 1"),
4 Chinese Algae Eaters (1", max size 4 inches, a skinny fish),
1 Moonlight Gourami (3 inches, max size 6")
2 Gold Gourami (about 1" max size 5")
2 Tetra Glofish pink (1", max size 2")
1 Blue Phantom Pleco (1/2 inch - max size 7" over several years)
Total 28 fish. doesn't appear overstocked at all right now. Many ground/night feeders. But it sure sounds like it on paper.
Tank B 29 Gallons Issue: VERY HIGH AMMONIA 8 PPM, 0 Nitrites, 0 Nitrates. Originally cycled with ammonia for 8 weeks before adding fish in May. Filter AquaClear 50, including ammonia reducing media. Cloudy water but not seriously. NO FISH have died except some initially I got from a local plant store. Currently missing a fish but it hides VERY well, it's "bigger" brother is braver and I see him daily. This tank is NOT cycling. No nitrites or nitrates. Adding Prime and AmGuard Daily - not making ANY difference, other than not allowing any fish to die.
Fish include:
1- Tan Gourami - 5 inches, wasn't supposed to be over 3".
2- Bristlenose Lomon Pleco L144: one 1", the other 1/2" excellent algae cleaners
2- Bluefin Algae eaters - rarely see these, they are keeping well hidden
2- Blue Gourami - 3" - max size 5" but one is already approaching 7" in size.
2- Blue Dwarf Gourami currently 3" unknown max size (different markings)
1- Gold Gourami; Currently 4" max size 5"
2 - Catfish unknown variety: PLUMP but about 1.5" long
2- Gold (yellow/pink) Dojo Loach: one shy, one bold but don't seem to eat much
2- Pearl Gourami: 4" (max size 6")
Total 16 fish but this appears VERY overstocked - some of the Gourami's are getting huge and there are few small fish. These fish really need a bigger tank or at least an additional tank. May be contributing to the ammonia.
Tank C: 5 Gallons
Issue : fluctuating ammonia. When I put in a high dose of AmGuard the Ammonia drops to .25 or 0. If I stop it goes right back up to 2-4ppm. Was fully cycled in 4 weeks. I then did a full tear down like we did with Tank A hoping to get the same results. Also (days later) switched filter out (this was about 2 weeks ago - keeping the biofilter from the old filter until it does cycle. Filter is an AquaClear 20 including ammonia reducing media. Crystal clear plastic tank. When I overfeed I suction excess out. Adding AmGuard and Prime daily. No nitrites or nitrates. Currently 0-.25 ammonia.(hard to tell) So it looks like the tear down may have worked - either that or the new filter. It's not cycling either - zero nitrites and nitrates or it's completely cycled - since ammonia levels are so low again but I really don't think it re-cycled.
Fish Include:
5 Golden Harlequin Rasbora: these school beautifully when alarmed - at first terrified of other fish but now comfortable.
1- "Serial killer" Zebra Danio - killed ALL his buddies, killed a large Gourmi by eating it's fins off. At the time I had no other place to put him - now I do but I will NOT purchase more of these fish only to get killed by this one. The Raspdora's school so tight when he alarms them he has given up even trying to injure them and actually tries to school with him. His behavior is MUCH calmer.
Total 6 fish - they need a much longer tank to be really happy. If I get another 29 gallon (my floor I don't think could handle a 55 gallon) I will likely introduce them to a new tank and euthanize the zebra if he kills more fish.