Uk Fish Store Index, Uk Members Please Help

[dthoffsett]

As some of you might know I'm reorganizing the fish store directories, I've finished the US and am currently looking for reviews for countries other than the UK or US. I'd like to get started on the UK, but need some help on how it would best to organize it.

The US was easy because I just divided them all by state, but as I am ignorant on how England, Scotland, Wales and Ireland are divided I'm at a bit of a loss. I did find several websites that shows there are different counties, but there seems to be a disagreement on how many. I also came across a couple of mentions of regions, but again can't find any consistancy on how many.

So, what would be easiest for you guys and gals to browse, after all you are the ones that will be using it.

Any and all help will be greatly appreciated. -Dawn

 

[fifefish]

Im up for sorting the Scottish directory out

 

[blue acara]

Like you say you can divide the country up by counties or areas. We are a small country so having the place split up into areas then a list of counties in thoes areas and then fish shops would be good.

The areas are something like this. Wikipedia has this info on it. It shows the counties in each area.
http/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regional_development_agency

Good luck

 

[NaughtyT]

I think doing it by nearest cities would work,especially in Scotland with it being small.

 

[fifefish]

I will just put all of the counties in,
Caithness
Sutherland
Ross and Cromarty
Inverness-shire
Nairnshire
County of Moray
Banffshire
Aberdeenshire
Kincardineshire
Angus
Perthshire
Argyll
County of Bute
Ayrshire
Renfrewshire
Dunbartonshire
Stirlingshire
Clackmannanshire
Kinross-shire
Fife
East Lothian
Midlothian
West Lothian
Lanarkshire
Peeblesshire
Selkirkshire
Berwickshire
Roxburghshire
Dumfriesshire
Kirkcudbrightshire
Wigtownshire

 

[Macko1968]

This is really tricky to do, if you go for regions you will have problems, I've seen Nottingham classed as "North" & "Midlands" for example. Even using counties will be hard, I live in Yorkshire, Durham & Cleveland depending on which resource you use.

Perhpas it would be easier to list them alphabetically by postal town?

 

[dthoffsett]

This is really tricky to do, if you go for regions you will have problems, I've seen Nottingham classed as "North" & "Midlands" for example. Even using counties will be hard, I live in Yorkshire, Durham & Cleveland depending on which resource you use.

Perhpas it would be easier to list them alphabetically by postal town?

Wow, this is going to be a lot more confusing than I thought. Forgive my ignorance, but what's a postal town?

 

[jmkgreen]

Postal towns can be be geographically pretty random too. List things by county should be sufficient.

 

[dthoffsett]

Ok, so if I understand this correctly, the UK can be broken down by country (ie. England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland), then by region, then county, postal town, and town. Am I correct in this?

Going on the assumption that I am, I think to make the index easy to read it would be simplest to have two indexes, one for England (since there are so many reviews) and another that has Scotland, Wales, Northen Ireland and Ireland together since there are far fewer reviews for those areas.

So, the index for England would be organized by county, and each county would be further broken down by the actual town. I understand there may be a few gray areas as Macko pointed out, and I may ask for some clarification along the way, but I think it will be easier to read if there aren't too many subgroups. But at the same time is needs to be divided somehow or the new index will be just as jumbled as the old one.

The Scotland/Wales/N. Ireland/Ireland index would be organized similarly just with the addition of separating them by country first.

Does this sound like a good idea or no?

 

[DesperateDanio]

Ok, so if I understand this correctly, the UK can be broken down by country (ie. England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland), then by region, then county, postal town, and town. Am I correct in this?

Spot on however i Think i would leave the postal town part and jump directly from county to towns as i think most people probably don't have much of a clue nowadays of their postal town unless you were to go down the route of using the first half of the postal code much like a zip code but we have letters and numbers and i believe in most cases except london the first 2 letters indicate your postal town i.e for my area we have RH which is for redhill and then after the RH we have numbers which i think back in days gone by may have been a reference to distance from main sorting office but not sure and defo not now

so i think prob best to just go regions then county then town or maybe if you wanted to just county then town as i am pretty sure most peeps no which county they live in and the counties closest to them or if not a quick look on a map will show them

just my 2 cents

 

[dthoffsett]

Ok, so if I understand this correctly, the UK can be broken down by country (ie. England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland), then by region, then county, postal town, and town. Am I correct in this?

Spot on however i Think i would leave the postal town part and jump directly from county to towns as i think most people probably don't have much of a clue nowadays of their postal town unless you were to go down the route of using the first half of the postal code much like a zip code but we have letters and numbers and i believe in most cases except london the first 2 letters indicate your postal town i.e for my area we have RH which is for redhill and then after the RH we have numbers which i think back in days gone by may have been a reference to distance from main sorting office but not sure and defo not now

so i think prob best to just go regions then county then town or maybe if you wanted to just county then region as i am pretty sure most peeps no which county they live in and the counties closest to them or if not a quick look on a map will show them

just my 2 cents

Thanks, I looked up what postal towns were on wikipedia, and TBH I'm amazed the mail ever makes it to someones house! That's confusing as heck.

I'm going to have England as a separate index since there are so many reviews, and instead of breaking it down so many ways, I think I'm going to go with county then town. I'm going to wait a day or two for other people to give their opinons if that will work and then dive in. It'll probably take me at least a week since I have to double check where everything is.

 

[DesperateDanio]

crazy.gif It'll probably take me at least a week since I have to double check where everything is. laugh.gif

well if you need a hand i am currently unemployed of course no need to pay lol

 

[dthoffsett]

Ok, well I already have another question. I think I have the county lists worked out, after searching for a couple of hours and trying to figure out the differences between historical, traditional, ceremonial and administrative counties I think I have it down. Now I need some help deciphering addresses. I'm wanting to list the stores by county and then city, but I can't tell which is which.

Could someone explain the following addresses in the simplest terms for me?

World of water:
London
Clapham

Ok, so is Clapham the city and London the county (if I understand it correctly Greater London was named it's own administrative county in 1991 I think, is this correct?). Or is Clapham just an area in London, like Queens is a bourough of NYC?

Brookside Garden Centre
Seven Mile Lane, East Peckham, Tonbridge, Kent

I'm completely lost here, I'm guessing Kent is the county, but why 2 city names? And if I'm sorting things by city which city do I sort by?

I'd appreciate any help as I'm afraid I'm going to bumble the whole index and make it completely incomprehensible to you guys.

 

[Essjay]

The two town situation - the first will usually be a small town and the second the larger nearby town. Once upon a time, the word 'near' would often have been in there, but the word has been dropped in recent years. Eg the place I was born, when I was a child (many years ago!) it was called Rainford, Near St Helens. It's now Rainford, St Helens.

I would be inclined to list a shop under the second, larger town in a case like this. If you use the smaller one, you'll end up with too many to handle. And people who live there will start with the larger town. So in my example above, I would expect to look for shops in St Helens itself and all the ones in the smaller towns with St Helens in the address (like Rainford) all listed under St Helens. None of these smaller towns will be far away from each other.

Edited for spelling

 

[paulbr1]

How about

County-Town/Village ie.

South Yorkshire, Doncaster, Armthorpe. We can all help by listing our own known LFS's in this way.

Areas ie. Midlands or Yorkshie/Humberside are too large IMO.

We could all chip in and ask for second/third opinion to get an average and a more accurate score!

And while I am at it if you do get an issue with a store could we have a (how they reacted/dealt with any issues) section

Paul.