This "art" Boils My Blood....

[Durbkat]

THAT'S SICK Tha's just wrong. It's cruel to fish/

 

[JackDemp528]

I just don't understand it. I wish more people would act up about it. If it was a mouse, or a cat, or a dog, in a tank with a knife sitting in it, I think they'd be a little more shocked. I just think that's a pointless piece of "art".

 

[-cAtFiSh-]

when you think about it everything is art. everything has some sort of design to it, whether it be nature's design or human design. but there is good art and there is crap art, that is crap art

 

[Boxcar Muzzdogg]

I noticed there was no explanatin of what the "artist" was trying to acheive with his peice.

 

[Tokis-Phoenix]

I noticed there was no explanatin of what the "artist" was trying to acheive with his peice.

Yeah and i can't even figure out what the artist was trying to say either with his peice- "don't do this at home kids" or "goldfish taste better live"(better yet "this is not art") or somthing ?

 

[jfrancho]

If I splash some paint on a piece of canvas, and try to sell it, people would look at the "painting" and the name signed to it and say "what is this crap". But is Picasso did the same thing, it would be a masterpiece.

You are thinking of Jackson Pollack. And, yes, he was a master. I don't always understand much of the "installation" type of artpieces. You go see what some person has been working on for six months, and it turns out to be a white box, and I'm like "Yeah, right. That's art?" In this case, I think the artist could have made more permanent impact with a still capture. It seems unecessary to leave goldfish in the bowl (not an ideal place for any length of time). Perhaps that was the point. Anyway, I like the imagery the artist projects with this setup, but don't care for the execution (sorry, for the pun), as I said earlier a still capture would have more impact, but maybe this was too much work. Myself, being an admirer of art photography, as well as a wannabe photographer, this gives me some interesting ideas, though none as violent as this.

 

[Fella]

The whole idea of it was probably to get himself a bit of publicity and for everyone to talk about it. Best just to ignore it really.

 

[riogal_11]

I would feel better about this if if the artist had explained their intentions. Art is definitely in the eye of the beholder, and I'm sure there are people that feel this was a brilliant exhibit. I am not one of them, but this artist is getting just what they wanted I'd say. I felt the need to look up this artist further and found this interesting. I found a few of those things to be really neat.
http/www.artseensoho.com/Art/ACE/kounellis98/k7.html
Maybe we will see something similar after this golfish publicity.

 

[Ethos]

Thats intresting....I dont see it as 'art' at all.
I'm very modern, and I love art that just has squares, uses different shades, lines, ect.
I'm much rather perfer a patern, than an actual painting.
I like going to the MPLS Art Institue....the modorn exhibits are usually pretty cool.....anyways, that is not art. Just a desperate person who needs money.
I pitty them.

 

[rdd1952]

I checked out that link and I guess I just don't get it. As you said, art is in the eye of the beholder and to me none of that is art. Yes, some is creative but it still doesn't do it for me. But then again, like I said earlier, I flunked Art Appreciation.

 

[iron maiden fan]

the reason it has no description about what it means is because it is mean't to be interpreted differently to each person.For example you could interrpret it as a message about animal cruelty or inhumane slaughter or like most people on this forum you can just assume the worst of everyone and just hate everyone and everything related to it before knowing the facts.And I seriously doubt that the fish live in that bowl.

 

[riogal_11]

I'm thinking the same thing IMF. I imagine the water is emaculate, even if it is only a minimal amount. I mean I'm sure they don't want a fish in foul looking water looking near death. And I figured they'd at least come up with an explanation of the meaning it had to them after the controversy started. But I guess even bad publicity is publicity.

 

[RandomWiktor]

I'm more bothered by the link to the starling art posted; the cage size for the birds is completely inadequate; they could not fly enough for decent exersize in those crappy little enclosures, and I wouldn't even keep a small finch in them.. By keeping them solitarily, they are being denied thier strong social natured, which can have devastating psychological effects, much like keeping a dog chained outisde and never playing with it. I also find it amusing that they say they are later taken by wildlife rehabilitators - most of whom are completely unwilling to take starlings since they are a harmful introduced species - to be released into thier "native" habitat. Yeah, too bad they aren't native to this country, and are responsible for millions in crop losses, dramatic population decreases in native birds they compete with, and spread avian diseases like wildlife

I tend to be of the opinion that you keep living things out of art exhibits; they are not objects or media and should not be treated as such. Photograph them, paint them, represent them through color and texture and sound, but do not make them a living exhibit. Most proper conditions for animal care are not very "artistic" by the standards of the art crowd, so I strongly doubt that most animal art exhibits are sufficient.

As for the goldfish and knives... eh. My fish have cut themselves up on tank hoods before, so I could see them hurting themselves on the knife if they spooked and swam into it. Even a small amount of time in that little water - plus the stress of being on exhibit or transported about - can wreak havoc on the animal's system. I'm sure they just use new fish for every show, as I can't imagine your average goldies surviving an art tour. Just another example of the insensitivity and lack of morality that breeds in environments that we refuse to hold to any kind of judgement...

 

[Boxcar Muzzdogg]

the reason it has no description about what it means is because it is mean't to be interpreted differently to each person.For example you could interrpret it as a message about animal cruelty or inhumane slaughter or like most people on this forum you can just assume the worst of everyone and just hate everyone and everything related to it before knowing the facts.And I seriously doubt that the fish live in that bowl.

Thats not it at all. That explanation is copout for hacks. Each peice of real art is created by the artist who has a vision and attempts to acheive a spefic goal through his peice. When a poet writes a lame peice about dark abyss and blue skies and you ask them what its about and they say, "whatever you want it to be" that is a copout. It may have been this artists' intentions to creat a contreversy, wherein the reaction created by the peice is part of the "art", but seeing as how he had not mentioned that, I'm sure hes using the lame "its whatever you want it be" copout.

 

[Fishist]

He called the exhibit, created by Kounellis especially for the show, "creative and intelligent"

This statement alone proves the artist has neither creativity nor intelligence in my opinion.