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[Trevelyn1015]

Trevelyn1015 ignore peoples points of view and i for one am sick of hearing your nonconstructive comments...

my non-constructive comments?

 

[garbodude]

i dint mean you i ment other peoples

 

[Trevelyn1015]

i dint mean you i ment other peoples

i figured...

just clarifying...

 

[Tokis-Phoenix]

Yes his tanks are nice and i don't think people here are been harsh in anyway- has anyone said anything nasty at all? i just can't find anything thats all.
I think what most people here are feeling is just general concern, i know i just want to make sure all his fish are well fed and in the right size tank despite not agreeing with the whole issue, its his fish and there isn't anything else we can do except advise him.

 

[nc_nutcase]

It’s not the ‘harshness’ that bothers me it’s the arrogance. All too often people spit their opinions at other members as if these opinions are handed down by God Himself. By posting our tanks we are inviting comments, but word your opinions for what they are… one members opinions… leave the pompous additives elsewhere…

"Opinions are like a$$holes… everyone has one and most of them stink…"

 

[samseal]

Am I being thick or are most fish we keep wild caught?

 

[abstract]

i can see nothing truly wrong if they are all common species and i think you should continue with the threads u r posting

alex

corys, plecos, and gourami in with native fish??

 

[simonbrown403]

I think some of you are being a little pompus, arnt we all FISH KEEPERS after all?

Fish retailers, sell a large range of fish, corals and invertabrats, most being tank bread, but some of wild origens.

What is the difrence between a wildly caught fish and one that is tank bread? they are all living creachers after all, yes i know that a tank bread specise dosnt know any diferent and is use to captivity, but even tank bread specise had to originat from somewhere?

Like said in a previous post it is more a dibate on ethics.

should't the main consern be as fish keepers, the wellfair of our pets, if these are met whats the problem?

 

[wrs]

Am I being thick or are most fish we keep wild caught?

your being thick.

barely any species are wild caught today, they are all breed in the far east or asia.

Though most of the SW fish are wild caught. Some FW are, but not alot of them.

 

[Tokis-Phoenix]

Actually samseal's not been that thick, practically all loaches are caught from the wild including many catfish like plecs.

 

[Synirr]

none of my native fish will get any bigger, really... except for the pumpkinseed baby... and by the time he does, i will have my 200 gallon tank...



my turtles will definitely grow, and eventually be put into our turtle pond...

but that is like 10 years from now...

i am not an animal abuser and i take very good care of what i have...

Ah alright... I'd still worry about the bass/turtles eating the cories or something, though
The turtles were mainly what I was thinking about in terms of adult size, but since you have a plan for when they get bigger, I don't see a problem

 

[Kiarra]

You have some lovely critters, and you obviously take very good care of your animals, and know a great deal about them, and I have a lot of respect for that. Now, if you were just catching these animals and throwing them together without any respect for or knowledge of what they are and what their needs are, then we would have a right to take issue with you. But they are quite obviously healthy, well-fed, and to all appearances are quite content where they are.

 

[Trevelyn1015]

considering that my razorback musk turtle got a 4" earthworm for lunch, my red eared slider had 2 minnows, my alligator snapper has eaten 6 minnows(in 2 days), and my fish are regularly fed, i would like to think i am a good owner...

if i ever felt that i could not provide above average care, i would find a different way of doing it...

i am not like the guy that lives upstairs, with 3 oscars in a 10 gallon...

want me to give you his aol name?

lol!

 

[garbodude]

Tokis-Phoenix sorry i dont check this enough been too busy. the harshness was mainly in his last post,(dont remember what it is) but its also in the repitition of saying what he has done is wrong or his fish arnt going to be cared for instead of asking him what his plans are for them.

and of course you can mix natives with other fish as long as they require the same h2o quality like most community tanks have a mixture from over the world. as for having plecos i am setting up an australian native tank and there are no native cats that clean the glass so its recomended to throw a pleco in there to keep the algae down. on or two fish in a big tank are noy going to spoil the fact that is a native tank. (i ment common as in they arnt going to go extinct)

and as for the debate about wether fish are wild caught or not i just read an article about cardinal tetras that were being caught in south america so much that it was endangering the abundance of fish in certain rivers. lots are bred but lots arent

any way have fun with whatever tank design you choose
al

 

[CFC]

Am I being thick or are most fish we keep wild caught?

your being thick.

barely any species are wild caught today, they are all breed in the far east or asia.

Though most of the SW fish are wild caught. Some FW are, but not alot of them.

You really should learn to think before you type, as Tokis has said MANY of the species we keep in our tanks are wild caught with only a handfull of common community fish being tank or farm raised.

Most tetras, oddalls and catfish including plecs will have been caught from the wild.