Puffers And Others?

[PerryClem0842]

Hello all, as you probably already know I am thinking about adding some fish to my 100l tank.
At first I had Apistogramma Borelli in mind, but then I thought why not have some small puffers.
So what water conditions do I need and are there any other fish I can have with them?
Tropical by the way please.

 

[Liquid skills]

puffers normaly need salt - brakish water to at their best and puffers are very agressive and should be kept in species only tanks i cant tell u the amount of times ive walked in to different pet shops where they keep puffers and seen fin less tetras in there because the puffers have eaten them (these tetras where still alive at that point) and shrimp arnt realy an op as the puffer will still eat them freshwater clams will prob be ok but they bury their selfs so u never see them also ur tank will need to be heaverly planted if u intend to keep more then one puffer as the agression is still there unfortunatly

 

[PerryClem0842]

puffers normaly need salt - brakish water to at their best and puffers are very agressive and should be kept in species only tanks i cant tell u the amount of times ive walked in to different pet shops where they keep puffers and seen fin less tetras in there because the puffers have eaten them (these tetras where still alive at that point) and shrimp arnt realy an op as the puffer will still eat them freshwater clams will prob be ok but they bury their selfs so u never see them also ur tank will need to be heaverly planted if u intend to keep more then one puffer as the agression is still there unfortunatly

OK, thanks for that.
Probably not such a good idea then!
Thanks again.

 

[N0body Of The Goat]

The freshwater red eyed puffers from Borneo could work fine in a 100l tank, especially C. irrubesco, generally regarded as very peaceful for a puffer (just like South American Puffers, which need a lengthy 4-foot tank long term). Community setups still come with a risk, but sometimes work with fast swimming fish and carfeul observation by the keeper.

An article at Tropical Fish Finder about these Borneo Puffers, http/www.tropicalfishfinder.co.uk/article_detail.asp?id=67

 

[Liquid skills]

thats ok here to help i also used to keep dwarf puffers i called mine hermiony and yes after hermiony from harry potter this was a couple years ago lol and she was a she so it worked i may start keeping them again now ive thought about it while answering ur question lol

The freshwater red eyed puffers from Borneo could work fine in a 100l tank, especially C. irrubesco, generally regarded as very peaceful for a puffer (just like South American Puffers, which need a lengthy 4-foot tank long term). Community setups still come with a risk, but sometimes work with fast swimming fish and carfeul observation by the keeper.

An article at Tropical Fish Finder about these Borneo Puffers, http/www.tropicalfishfinder.co.uk/article_detail.asp?id=67

ok i didnt know these guys exsited lol but it is also mentioned above that there is till a risk if you do want puffers play it carefully research etc

 

[PerryClem0842]

Cool I might try them out then LOL Hermione!

Thanks

 

[PerryClem0842]

Just saw you mentioned also about dwarf puffers,
now reading the PFK magazine and it said that dwarf puffers are in danger when water pumps re around or did you not find this at all ?

 

[minnnt]

The freshwater red eyed puffers from Borneo could work fine in a 100l tank, especially C. irrubesco, generally regarded as very peaceful for a puffer (just like South American Puffers, which need a lengthy 4-foot tank long term). Community setups still come with a risk, but sometimes work with fast swimming fish and carfeul observation by the keeper.

An article at Tropical Fish Finder about these Borneo Puffers, http/www.tropicalfishfinder.co.uk/article_detail.asp?id=67

Have you any info to support that claim Goat? Thanks.

I disagree that they need a 4ft tank. Mine are in an 80cm tank and never pace the glass, but it is heavily planted and has a nice flow for them to surf.

But if you have some info that i have missed then i am happy to listen to it... Well, read.

Cheers matey.

 

[N0body Of The Goat]

While not outright stating 4-foot, Neale Monk's article at http/www.wetwebmed...susartNeale.htm writes, "Being nicely coloured, constantly active, and not too big, a pack of half a dozen specimens would look great in a 125-180 litre/33-44 gallon tank." Now while a Rio 125 could satisfy that minimum volume with dimensions of 81 x 36 x 50 cm, SAPs are known to be be big fans of current (upto 10x true water turnover would be appreciated), they are very active fish like Zebra Danios (for which a 4-foot is considered a responsible minimum).

I know if I ever got round to getting SAPs (which the whole clove oil careful sedation to beak trim really puts me off), I would be far happier stocking a group in my Rio240 or 140l 48x12x15 to give them space to use their energy, rather than my 130l 620T or any future tank I may ever get less than 4-foot (not that this is likely to happen soon, five tanks is more than enough to keep me busy outside work!).

I know you think a 4-foot tank for your SAPs is a waste, "too boring", but then in a bigger tank you could easily add another three to your existing group and it would be a hive of activity (some surfing while others explore the densely planted areas). But like many things in life, one man's meat is another man's poison.

 

[minnnt]

Cheers pal, i never really thought of it like that. I have also read Neale's write up on WWM, in fact, i have it on my favourites so i can reffer back to it and read it should i need to know anything. I've been considering bringing my puffer tank downstairs, so maybe i will get a longer tank for them when i do. Seeing as i already have everything for the setup it would just be a bare tank that i needed to get so probably not that big a deal if i can source a cheap second hand one locally.

Sorry for hi-jacking the thread Perry.

Thanks again.

David.

 

[Liquid skills]

Just saw you mentioned also about dwarf puffers,
now reading the PFK magazine and it said that dwarf puffers are in danger when water pumps re around or did you not find this at all ?

Well living wise i didnt have a problem but my filter broke and thats what got her unfortunatly other wise no i didnt have a prob puffers need a filter they are extreamly messy creatures

I might hide a tank in the cabonit of my larger tank and get a dwarf lol

 

[PerryClem0842]

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Well living wise i didnt have a problem but my filter broke and thats what got her unfortunatly other wise no i didnt have a prob puffers need a filter they are extreamly messy creatures

I might hide a tank in the cabonit of my larger tank and get a dwarf lol
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that sounds like a good idea thanks

 

[Shovelman]

PerryClem0842

If your going the dwarf puffer route, only tank mates ive successfully seen kept with them are ottos and apparently claims of larger shrimps although mine ate ANYTHING that came in the tank.