Now I Gotta Do It Right
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chesterscot
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jess if you had worms would you want medicine even though they wont kill you lol
hope your fish come good
scot
hope your fish come good
scot
puppyjess123
Doing first planted tank :)
Okay i've tried to catch her this whole time to put her in the net GRRR which med shall i buy then one THAT WILL DEFINAITALY WORK.
Syphoniera
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Jess, if you just bought the fish, they should take them back and give you healthy ones or a refund.
Of course, you can't put healthy fish in the infected tank...
At least you'll get the q tank soon...
puppyjess123
Doing first planted tank :)
Well i can't really prove it was them i got the parasites from can i plus my guaruntee has ran out. Anywa how am i ment to transport them? How long will they last as it might take a while for the vet to get the lux or watever
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Somehow I was thinking you'd just got them a few days ago...
The faster you can get them medicated the better - and thank heaven for the expert advice you're getting.
Can't hope for better than Wilder...
I know some people get Levamisole from feed stores, (in some countries, anyway,) as it's a cattle/sheep, etc. wormer, but there's probably nothing like that in your area, and if your dad isn't big on driving you places, that kind of makes it tricky...
Sorry, I'm no help really, it just really sucks for you, not to mention those poor fish...
puppyjess123
Doing first planted tank :)
Dads ringing up the vet tomorrow. Yeah thanks wilder. They don't do it here in the UK i don't tihnk well i've never seen any. And guess what! Nick (tip- guy) has found a plastic tank so i will get the heater and filter for it at christmas. Anyway know how a 12 year old can make their own sponge filter and i'm not to good with DIY.
Going back to the beginning, how did you get the baby fish in the net? Did you catch the female and put her in the net, where she gave birth? Or did you catch the fry out of the tank and put them in the net?
If you caught the fry out of the tank with a normal fish net then you probably damaged them when you caught them. You should only scoop them out with a cup or small container and gently pour them into the breeding net.
If you caught the female and put her into the net when she was in labour or within a day of her giving birth, then you could have damaged her and the babies. Mollies are generally a bit big to be put into a breeding net so you would be better off leaving the adult females to give birth in the tank, then scoop the fry out.
If your mollies and guppies are only giving birth to 10 young at a time then they aren't being fed properly, or are suffering some major health issues. Healthy adult female mollies can produce over 100 young in a batch and most should produce 50+.
How often do you feed them and what do you feed them?
How long did you have the females for before they gave birth? If you only had the females for a few days then they could have been stressed from the move and gave birth prematurely, and this is why the fry are dieing.
The fish in the pic could be skinnier than she was because she gave birth.
Most livebearers, (mollies, guppies, swordtails, platies, etc) carry internal parasites like worms. It is always a good idea to treat any new fish before adding them to the tank. If you don't have a quarantine tank then treat the display tank after you add them. If you don't treat the fish for worms then eventually the worms drink so much blood the fish die. Also the worms can cause internal bacterial infections and the scar tissue they leave on the intestinal wall can prevent food being absorbed by the fish. Then the fish suffers from malnutrition as well as losing all its blood to the worms.
If your fish have worms then you need to feed them more until they are treated. The more food the fish get, the more chance of them living a bit longer. However, don't overfeed them as any uneaten food will rot and cause water quality issues.
As Wilder has suggested, ring your local vet (the place where you take a sick cat or dog) and ask them if you can get some Levamisole to treat intestinal worms in fish. If they say yes then hop on a bike or catch a bus to the vet and get some. If you can't get there then ask if you can send them a money order from your post office. Then when they receive the money order they can send you the medication. Alternatively you might be able to find a supplier online who sells it but that will depend on the laws in your country.
If you caught the fry out of the tank with a normal fish net then you probably damaged them when you caught them. You should only scoop them out with a cup or small container and gently pour them into the breeding net.
If you caught the female and put her into the net when she was in labour or within a day of her giving birth, then you could have damaged her and the babies. Mollies are generally a bit big to be put into a breeding net so you would be better off leaving the adult females to give birth in the tank, then scoop the fry out.
If your mollies and guppies are only giving birth to 10 young at a time then they aren't being fed properly, or are suffering some major health issues. Healthy adult female mollies can produce over 100 young in a batch and most should produce 50+.
How often do you feed them and what do you feed them?
How long did you have the females for before they gave birth? If you only had the females for a few days then they could have been stressed from the move and gave birth prematurely, and this is why the fry are dieing.
The fish in the pic could be skinnier than she was because she gave birth.
Most livebearers, (mollies, guppies, swordtails, platies, etc) carry internal parasites like worms. It is always a good idea to treat any new fish before adding them to the tank. If you don't have a quarantine tank then treat the display tank after you add them. If you don't treat the fish for worms then eventually the worms drink so much blood the fish die. Also the worms can cause internal bacterial infections and the scar tissue they leave on the intestinal wall can prevent food being absorbed by the fish. Then the fish suffers from malnutrition as well as losing all its blood to the worms.
If your fish have worms then you need to feed them more until they are treated. The more food the fish get, the more chance of them living a bit longer. However, don't overfeed them as any uneaten food will rot and cause water quality issues.
As Wilder has suggested, ring your local vet (the place where you take a sick cat or dog) and ask them if you can get some Levamisole to treat intestinal worms in fish. If they say yes then hop on a bike or catch a bus to the vet and get some. If you can't get there then ask if you can send them a money order from your post office. Then when they receive the money order they can send you the medication. Alternatively you might be able to find a supplier online who sells it but that will depend on the laws in your country.
puppyjess123
Doing first planted tank :)
I scooped them out with a fish net and yes i did crush a few. YES they are suffering major health issues (read this thread). Yeah i got them last weekend so i don't tihnk that. feed once a day sometimes twice. But their is a dip in her tummy and she clamps her fins so i don't tihnk she's healthy. I never had this problem before and i won't be getting anymore fish now (unless some die most likely lol). I will treat when i get the q tank. Which product is good. Well the vets down my road what happens if he don't have some. We're phoning tomoz. Also i put her in the net is this bad and shall i put her back in main tank?
She will be stressed in the net I would let her go.
The vets might not be open tomorrow as its sunday.
Levaimsole the best product on the market for camallanous worms.
http
/www.fishforums.net/content/Disease-...Levamisole-Hci/
The vets might not be open tomorrow as its sunday.
Levaimsole the best product on the market for camallanous worms.
http
/www.fishforums.net/content/Disease-...Levamisole-Hci/puppyjess123
Doing first planted tank :)
thx really helpful appreciate it wilder and all
puppyjess123
Doing first planted tank :)
Okay well we just phoned the vet and this is starting to annoy me. We have to drive all the way to this place (quite far away) and we have to bring a fish (which one should i take? the worst infected or the least infected). How can i transport it - in a cup, bag etc? And they will look to see whats wrong with it and then if it is callomous worms they'll give me the levamasoile. Are you pretty sure its worms? Also each time i add a new livebearer to the tank shall i dose them with this stuff to make sure i don't get it again? Hpopefully my quarintine will be up and running soon so i don't need to worry about this again. + is it only livebearer that get this worms or shall i treat the whole tank.
Sometimes vets will look at pics instead of taking the fish to the vets.
You need the worst afffected one, fill a bag with tank water, but you will need to pump the bag up with air like the lfs does.
Try and see if pics are ok instead of taking the fish.
The whole tank needs treating.
Best to worm all new fish.
One fish does have sign of internal parasites, being thin, sunken in belly, and long stringy white poo.
You need the worst afffected one, fill a bag with tank water, but you will need to pump the bag up with air like the lfs does.
Try and see if pics are ok instead of taking the fish.
The whole tank needs treating.
Best to worm all new fish.
One fish does have sign of internal parasites, being thin, sunken in belly, and long stringy white poo.
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