AngelOfDeath
Fish Crazy
you use your own urine.... ive heard it mentioned before
You can play around with your own piss if you want, but I dont think anyone else will
I know a lot of people that have not bothered to cycle the tank and they have had zero problems, i'm not recommending this though
If you can't use ammonia for some silly reason, then just chuck in a few goldfish...
Even my big moors and oranda seem to be struggling. Everytime they swim infront of it they get blown away to the glass..