New Veiltail Spawn Log!

[Monty2451]

So Jaded and I got together and I brought my oldest Veiltail, Alpha Betta. Since she's been trying to breed Veiltails with larger tails, I figured she might wanna breed him as he has a huge tail, and he's a giant (over 2 inches). She absolutely loved him and put him with one of her Veiltail females, Trixie. Well, 24 hours later Jaded and I are proud Grandparents, lol. We'll be sure to keep you all updated, in the mean time here are some pics and a video.

Heres my male, Alpha Betta...

And here's Jaded's female, Trixie...

And here's the two spawning...

And a video of the two...

 

[Jaded12]

They're doing well! Still getting it on, lmao lots of eggs!

 

[nakomis90]

Are you making combetails??
the girl looks CT too me...

 

[blue_betta]

umm... wheres the bubblenest? i see a few bubbles but no nest as such

 

[Amunet]

umm... wheres the bubblenest? i see a few bubbles but no nest as such

Yeah I was wondering where the bubblenest was as well? I see some bubbles on the edge but that's it?
And why is Trixie's fins so damaged? Poor girl looks rough

 

[Jaded12]

everyone is so negative geez... theres enough bubbles, if you knew anything about spawning you'd know that a huge bubblenest is needed to impress the female not to hold the eggs only enough bubbles to hold the eggs are needed, some males dont even build a nest until they actually begin spawning with the female. There's no black and white in spawning bettas, its a whole lot of grey. And Trixie is so beat up because she got into an "I'm the dominante female" argument with one of my other girls in the sorority, but she'll be fine.

 

[Monty2451]

Are you making combetails??
the girl looks CT too me...

Jaded tells me she's a VT, she' has way more experience than me in that area. I'm still trying to learn how to distinguish females tail types myself.

umm... wheres the bubblenest? i see a few bubbles but no nest as such

Jaded assures me there are more than enough bubbles, I trust her judgment.

Yeah I was wondering where the bubblenest was as well? I see some bubbles on the edge but that's it?
And why is Trixie's fins so damaged? Poor girl looks rough

Jaded had her in a community tank with another female, we think they might of had a tiff because the other had some damage on her tail fin.
But she is otherwise healthy, and more than willing to mate, Alpha didn't seem to mind!

 

[Amunet]

Who's being negative? No need to go on the defensive. No one was trying to attack anyone lol

I personally didn't know the thing about the bubblenest info, so thanks for that. I thought they had to have a big nest for the actual eggs, not just to impress. Learn something new every day

 

[blue_betta]

everyone is so negative geez... theres enough bubbles, if you knew anything about spawning you'd know that a huge bubblenest is needed to impress the female not to hold the eggs only enough bubbles to hold the eggs are needed, some males dont even build a nest until they actually begin spawning with the female. There's no black and white in spawning bettas, its a whole lot of grey. And Trixie is so beat up because she got into an "I'm the dominante female" argument with one of my other girls in the sorority, but she'll be fine.

awwr... not being negative, i just wondered where the nest was.

your far more experianced than me with breeding, so i woudlnt dout you

 

[Jaded12]

sorry guys, having a bad day and am sick as a dog so I'm a little snippy, ignore me

 

[nakomis90]

everyone is so negative geez... theres enough bubbles, if you knew anything about spawning you'd know that a huge bubblenest is needed to impress the female not to hold the eggs only enough bubbles to hold the eggs are needed, some males dont even build a nest until they actually begin spawning with the female. There's no black and white in spawning bettas, its a whole lot of grey. And Trixie is so beat up because she got into an "I'm the dominante female" argument with one of my other girls in the sorority, but she'll be fine.

Ok do you know how selfish you look?
that was BANG out of order...
your not a "proffesional" breeder and if you where youd be breeding something more than VT's to take too the IBC shows!!
there is loads of breeders out there and loads of us who wish too be breeders!
the last thing we want to hear is a silly little girl bigging herself up too make herself feel better!

you have made god knows how many spawns without reading the genetic side of it!
yeah putting the pretty fishies together will come out with cute babies...
but wheres the point in producing all these cute babies when your not even going to appreciate them because you have 30 odd bloomi spawns!

wake up and smell the pond weed!, you need to get off your high horse!

p.s Sorry to the others they dont need to suffer!
if you need help pm me sweeties!

 

[devon_charm]

you have made god knows how many spawns without reading the genetic side of it!
yeah putting the pretty fishies together will come out with cute babies...
but wheres the point in producing all these cute babies when your not even going to appreciate them because you have 30 odd bloomi spawns!

Not wantin to start arguments but i have been wanting to say this myself for quite a while. Alot of us breeders try really hard to better what fish we already have avaliable to us, so its a little anoying when someone comes along and appears to be throwing any old two fish together. The male you have on this thread is beautifal and a fine looking fish but he is not "extra special" you are just adding to the betta in a cup. I really think alot of your determination and passion for it but please really take a step back and look at what your spawning. Keep good tails together and personally i would steer clear of spawnin petshop bettas as they are mutts, you wont have desireable spawns that way. For the record i am not having a go, i am trying to give advise tho i will no doubt get knocked back for it by some one.

 

[modaz]

hmmmm, i gotta disagree there, myself and jaded aint seen eye to eye in the past but ive gotta say that she does know what she's doing, her past in breeding bettas does go along way back, i can see why the 2 have been choosen to spawn together as the female is identical to the male in regards to genetics, note the colouration and where this lyes on both bettas, i dont agree with the tail being increased though as this will only result in bettas that have difficulty holding and flaring their tails, i wouldve personally widened the span first and then increased the length to produce more rays to be able to hold the excess finnage produced by the length

 

[devon_charm]

Hmmm the female is the same colour yea but i can go down to any of my local pet shops and pick up an identical female, 2 or 3 even. Its not all about the colour of the fish that matters. All i am saying is spawn something "different" not some thing that is 2 a penny. It has to be said that some of the pairs i have seen posted on here are very questionable and have no sense to them what so ever.

But whatever what do i know

Edited to say: i do agree with Daz on the tail tho go for spread not length - i have nothing against a truly full tailed VT

 

[nakomis90]

hmmmm, i gotta disagree there, myself and jaded aint seen eye to eye in the past but ive gotta say that she does know what she's doing, her past in breeding bettas does go along way back, i can see why the 2 have been choosen to spawn together as the female is identical to the male in regards to genetics, note the colouration and where this lyes on both bettas, i dont agree with the tail being increased though as this will only result in bettas that have difficulty holding and flaring their tails, i wouldve personally widened the span first and then increased the length to produce more rays to be able to hold the excess finnage produced by the length

Modaz.....
i honestly can't see you agreeing on this...
although yes its opposite to what me and shell have said so maybe i do see why!

yeah she may have a past in breeding but even you have said in the past VT's arent the best to spawn....
but the point beeing would YOU spawn atleast 5 different bettas at risk of all the pairs(which is rare i know!) spawning and having 100+babies each....
it a 40 gallon tank for fry to grow out in... thats one possibly two spawns of fry in it....
i highly doubt that she has enough room for 500 babies (atleast a 110G tank or 3 40G tanks...)..
you have just gone against shell because you always do!

P.S
dont you dare say im only sticking up for shell thats always your shout down...
and before you say ooh but your going to spawn VT's... i aint and ill be showing mine in 2009 if i can!
Im sticking to a set platinum white HM line...
and Gold HMPK's