Never Trusting Anyone Or Anyhting Ever Again!

[hanny93]

Okay, rant time!

My (i think female) pearl gourami recently lost her friend, and she looked really lonely. When I went to my lfs to get a thermometer (which by the way, shows my tank temp is 22C when my heater is at 28C! - Juwel are rubbish!) i saw these pretty little honey gouramis.

Now I'm a little bit of a fish nerd and I walk round the shop looking at all the fish and imagining them in a huge room sized tank. I was stood there looking at these honey gourami and the assistant comes over to me and says 'can i help you with anything?'. I said i was looking for another female pearl and he said they only had males, but they had female honeys if i wanted those, and they were £7 a pair, so i could have a trio!

So i asked if they were compatible and he said yes of course, so I thought, meh why not, theyre beautiful and it will add a new colour to my tank!

So i came home, acclimatised them etc etc, my pearl seemed really interested in her new tank mates. So after i put them in to acclimatise, i did a bit more research. (I'd done a bit before i went in and then a little bit more on my blackberry whilst i was there) and i came across a site that said whether certain fishw ere compatible with each other.

Of course, it said pearls and honeys are definately not compatible. Thinking it was a fluke, i came on here to find everybody saying they shouldn't be mixed.

I nearly cried! But saying that they seem to be doing okay, no nipping, no chasing, just inquisitive.

Should I sell the new honeys on, sell my old pearl, sell them all or keep them all and see how they get on?


Oh and I think I've been sold a male and a female instead of two females! Great!

 

[fuzzynicki]

Sorry you've been messed around. Happens a lot in lfs. I've never had honeys myself, but always had pearls. I have a mix of gouramis though and have never had any problems with them. They are in a 260 litre tank. I am now down to a male pearl, a male lavender, a female gold and a female moonlight. If you aren't currently having problems I would hang on to them all as you like them. Obviously you'd have to re-think the situation if any trouble occurs, but fingers crossed that it doesn't! Good luck!

 

[zeke the black ghost knife]

Okay, rant time!

My (i think female) pearl gourami recently lost her friend, and she looked really lonely. When I went to my lfs to get a thermometer (which by the way, shows my tank temp is 22C when my heater is at 28C! - Juwel are rubbish!) i saw these pretty little honey gouramis.

Now I'm a little bit of a fish nerd and I walk round the shop looking at all the fish and imagining them in a huge room sized tank. I was stood there looking at these honey gourami and the assistant comes over to me and says 'can i help you with anything?'. I said i was looking for another female pearl and he said they only had males, but they had female honeys if i wanted those, and they were £7 a pair, so i could have a trio!

So i asked if they were compatible and he said yes of course, so I thought, meh why not, theyre beautiful and it will add a new colour to my tank!

So i came home, acclimatised them etc etc, my pearl seemed really interested in her new tank mates. So after i put them in to acclimatise, i did a bit more research. (I'd done a bit before i went in and then a little bit more on my blackberry whilst i was there) and i came across a site that said whether certain fishw ere compatible with each other.

Of course, it said pearls and honeys are definately not compatible. Thinking it was a fluke, i came on here to find everybody saying they shouldn't be mixed.

I nearly cried! But saying that they seem to be doing okay, no nipping, no chasing, just inquisitive.

Should I sell the new honeys on, sell my old pearl, sell them all or keep them all and see how they get on?


Oh and I think I've been sold a male and a female instead of two females! Great!

did anyone heard of the guy on youtube who has a really vicious honey gourami?

 

[hanny93]

They don't look vicious at all, they're minding their own business, but all swimming round together.

And yeah I would've thought my lfs would have given me better advice, I'm not naming it as I don't want to put others off going there but it was given high reviews in the journal thing on here of lfs.

To be honest the guy who sold them me obviously had no experience with fishkeeping as he called neons 'glofish'...

I hope I've just got lucky, in a case of emergency the boyfriend's brother has a 1500 litre tank that has about 2 neon tetras and a baby guppy, but I'd rather not as I love the way they all look darting round my new plants

 

[hanny93]

Yeah I'm not lucky today. They're fighting away so I've just facebooked OH's brother and pearly will have a huge new tank to play in.

Really disappointed in my lfs, thats a second one I can't trust anymore as much as I used to.
Gonna have to start going 10 miles extra now!

 

[FishAreFriendsNotFood10]

i read a story recently about honey gouramis that followed a pearl around like a parent figure .... gutting yours arent getting on now though!

i keep honey gouramis and they are wicked togetha in a larger group always following each other around but they show no signs of aggresion!

 

[hanny93]

i read a story recently about honey gouramis that followed a pearl around like a parent figure .... gutting yours arent getting on now though!

i keep honey gouramis and they are wicked togetha in a larger group always following each other around but they show no signs of aggresion!

Yeah mine were doing that at first but I think the novelty wore off for the pearl and she started attacking them I don't really have room for a big group unless I got rid of the neons (which my OH loves) or my cories (which I love) so its not really possible. She's going to a 1500 litre tank though so its okay

 

[Caprichoso]

Sorry to hear about that! I have been lucky so far with my pearls and honey's getting along. I have a male and female pearl, almost full grown and I have 2 female and 1 male honey gourami. The male honey gourami really likes the male pearl and will follow him around and "browse" his sides and underbelly. I was worried at first because I thought this to be a sign of aggression but the pearl will actually slow down and let him do it! The other day the pearl did a headstand while the honey gourami browsed at him! I thought maybe it's cleaning something off him but I couldn't see anything on his skin. Anyway, don't know what all that's about but it's certainly interesting.

I find that sometimes you get fish that are supposed to be incompatible but it will still work out. I tend to push the envelope a bit and I've been pleasantly surprised. I must have some kind of good mojo happening in my tank because I also have a male and female betta in there too and no issues! I also have a very large tank so that might give everybody the territory they need, I can't be sure...

 

[fuzzynicki]

Ah, sorry it didn't work out for you

 

[hanny93]

Ah, sorry it didn't work out for you

It's okay, she/he is chilling in a 1500 litre tank haha. Quite a shock after being a tank bully when he was thrown in with silver sharks and loads of others. Still doing fine though honey gouramis are much happier in there

 

[onebto]

Its not just Juwel heaters that run at a Different temperature to the printed display on the top so its no big deal chill out

 

[hanny93]

Its not just Juwel heaters that run at a Different temperature to the printed display on the top so its no big deal chill out

Yeah, but a whole 8-10 degrees lower? Surely its a problem juwel need to address, especially for people like me who know nothing when they first buy them.

I also don't like juwel lights or filters, but I didn't buy the tank, my mum did, so I blame her

 

[onebto]

Its not just Juwel heaters that run at a Different temperature to the printed display on the top so its no big deal chill out

Yeah, but a whole 8-10 degrees lower? Surely its a problem juwel need to address, especially for people like me who know nothing when they first buy them.

I also don't like juwel lights or filters, but I didn't buy the tank, my mum did, so I blame her

I think there Tanks are fantastic I have purchased 3 and would buy another if I needed it, The filters work fine they just take up to much room in the tank that's why Like many I cut them out and fit an external canister filter to the tank but they do work and well.

Be honest I cannot for the life of me work out what you do not like about Juwel Lights all the ones I have had work full stop, I have heard about some that have failed but all makes and models will have the occasional issue so pointing Juwel out is a little unfair of you

No one runs a tanks temperature from what is written on a heater thermostat, you set it from what your separate thermometer reads

I am sure Juwel would be happy to supply you with a high quality and calibrated thermostat but I do not think you would want to spend the sort of money it would cost but then again its not you that brought the tank so instead of blaming your mum you should thank her.

These heaters are made with very cheep components on mass I am not sure what you are expecting but it definitely appears you are expecting to much for your mothers money!

 

[hanny93]

You can't judge tanks though, a Juwel tank is just the same as a Clearseal tank, it either holds water or it doesn't.

I don't like the lights' its as simple as that. I dont know why, I just don't, I dont like the grey connectors on the end, I think it looks too bulky and to be honest, ugly. I'm sure you don't like something and you don't know why.

And noone runs a heater off what it says on the thermostat?
Seriously, can you not see the problem here?
When I bought my tank I had no idea about thermometers etc etc, surely if everyone knows the heaters don't work properly, you should get a free thermometer with it? Or at least be told they don't work properly.
For £30 I would assume I'd be getting something that works.
I bought an £11 heater, unbranded and only 50W, and it heats to the temperature I want it to heat to, not what it decides is the right temperature.
Kinda says it all really.

And she did buy it about 6-12 months ago, I didn't ask and I was very grateful for it, don't get me wrong, I'd just rather have chosen everything myself. Again, I'm sure you'd rather have done the same.

I'm expecting equipment that works! I think it's pretty poor that people just accept that theirs doesn't work. It's a waste of energy and money because I'm trying to get a tank upto 32C (what the thermo is set at) but its only reading 22C, so the heater is permanently on.

Fair enough if you've had nothing but good experiences with Juwel, I haven't, and my original post wasnt about Juwel, it was about my lfs being very ignorant, the Juwel thing was just an add-on.

 

[Mikaila31]

I use the 50 cent sticky thermometers . All the numbers on my heaters wore off, or they just has a + or - to begin with.

Also gouramis will naturally fight initially. They are semi aggressive fish and like most in groups they work out a hierarchy system. This is usually worked out by figuring who is the boss. Then they tend to settle down. Its not unusual to have a over aggressive gourami though. Rainbow fish have the same kinda system as well, but more show and less fight. Its mainly amongst the males. Two male rainbows can be vicious if they can't settle things by just strutting around.